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Barrel regulation (both barrels having the same point of aim) is hit or miss on lower end shotguns. Make sure you test fire them or save your money for a used Browning or Beretta
 
Beginer what ?
hunting- older marlin model 90s where pretty good, also older Charlse Daly italian manufacture and Miruko(browning clone and also who builds for browning) These have jumped in price due to the value for the buck has been let out.
Trap- ??? Best bang for the buck is a used Browning citori trap, winchester , beretta

There are a host of "field guns" CZ, brno, zoli , Valmet to name a few.

Try as many guns as you can get your hands on!!!!!!
 
I bought a Lanber 2097 lux from cdnnsports.com about 10 months ago and could not be happier with it. I bought a Blem for $600. I had the stock cut and had an adjustable comb put in (I shoot Trap mostly and wanted to raise the POI). The gun shoots straight. I clean it about every 300 rounds, grease where it needs it, and oil on the extractors, and I have have had zero problems. Shoot about 8-10 rounds of Trap per week (yeah I got addicted).

The gun is not very popular here, but it is VERY popular everywhere else in the world. Comes with a 5 year warranty. A great upper entry level shotgun.

If you're ever in the Amesbury Seacoast NH/MA area PM me and I'll bring you to my club and let you try it out.

Oh and I converted 3 others to Lanbers and only 1 problem. Slight burr on the lever from the factory. Made opening annoying. Covered under warranty, but it was gone a month. But overall the owner is Happy and shooting 2 days per week.

It's not a Browning, Beretta, Perazzi, Ljutic, or Krieghoff. But for a cheap O/U it's a Great bargain
 
there really is not a do all shotgun. If you are going to go the one gun route for bird hunting and trap I would go with removable choke tubes. or be sure the restriction on the barrels of the O/U shotgun. you do not really want to shoot cylinder or improved cylinder for trap. I only have one field gun(browning citiori 20g) modified/full fixed choke. Great for long days in the field. Being a very light gun it will actually beat me up a bit when shooting trap, unless I use some very light target loads.

In the end you need to be happy with the gun. Relize its limits and potential. My does all gun is my remington 870 express modified choke....takes birds, dear , clays. I have since upgraded to haveing a 870 express, winchester 1300 with slug barrel , browing citori trap model. My go to bird gun is my beat to sknot savage 311 side by side.
 
Beretta A3901. About $600 but will do everything you want it to. If you want a better one, you can step up to the 391, but it's more like 900-1200.
 
I bought a Lanber 2097 lux from cdnnsports.com about 10 months ago and could not be happier with it. I bought a Blem for $600. I had the stock cut and had an adjustable comb put in (I shoot Trap mostly and wanted to raise the POI). The gun shoots straight. I clean it about every 300 rounds, grease where it needs it, and oil on the extractors, and I have have had zero problems. Shoot about 8-10 rounds of Trap per week (yeah I got addicted).

I'm glad you got a good one. I test one yesterday with full chokes at 13 yards and the bottom barrel shot 2.5 inches lower than the top barrel. I don't want to shoot doubles out of that!
 
You most definitely cannot go wrong with a Browning.

If you find a Charles Daly made by Miroku at a good price and in excellent condition, buy it.

FYI, Miroku (a Japanese gunmaker) has made every Citori and Cynergy shotgun Browning has ever sold. They also make the BPS pump shotgun for Browning.

As a matter of fact, the Browning Arms Company has never, ever manufactured a firearm in its history. They have always subcontracted their arms manufacture. 99% of that production has gone to a combination of FN and Miroku.
 
If you find a Charles Daly made by Miroku at a good price and in excellent condition, buy it.

This. Miroku Dalys are the biggest bargain in shotguns. I have four of them, one in each of the 4 skeet gauges (.410, 28, 20, 12). They have that balance and "feel" that's somehow just missing from the cheap doubles. IMHO, about as close as you're going to come to the feel of a Belgian Superposed at perhaps a third of the cost. The real hand engraving on most of them is nice as well.

ETA: This is what we're talking about: http://www.cabelas.com/gun-inventory---mitchell---american-sg---1309432-cdmiroku-mit.shtml. Like all the guns on the Cabela's list it's overpriced - I'd expect to see that gun at around $750 or so at Kittery, where you can find them from time to time.
 
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I picked up a 'newer' ie with choke cubes Citori for $850 on GB about 2 years ago.
You have to follow the auctions for a long time for something reasonable to come up.
Many gun shops will have an older model without choke tubes for about the same price.
Bill
 
I bought a Lanber 2097 lux from cdnnsports.com about 10 months ago and could not be happier with it. I bought a Blem for $600. I had the stock cut and had an adjustable comb put in

Where did you have this done, and how much did it cost?
 
Citori in Uxbridge

Barrel regulation (both barrels having the same point of aim) is hit or miss on lower end shotguns. Make sure you test fire them or save your money for a used Browning or Beretta

I took a look at the FirstDefenseFirearms web site after an article in the General section on holsters. Anyway they list a used Citori and depending on condition could be a good buy.
Bill

Browning Citori Grade 1 Hunter 12 gauge,
Over/Under Blued, 26" Barrel, Invector
Choke, Ribbed, Double Bead, Walnut
Stock, Consign....$750
 
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