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Owning 2 exact same guns, one for carry, one for practice??
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1903Collector
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See...with AR's I have absolutely convinced myself that each one I have has a specific purpose that one of the others cannot do!
Even then. Competition guns just get beat up, that's why you might want more than one, not so much the number of rounds.
For example, I beat the sh*t out of the 929 every time I open the cylinder and close it as fast as possible while shooting. Eventually something will get messed up.
So, if anything breaks, it will be due to competition abuse.
That being said ... I do keep spare parts. For the CCW, I keep a spring kit, firing pin, and if it is cheap, keep a spare trigger (for all the smaller parts that could break - or I order a bunch of additional small parts from brownells). That's it. So let's call it around $50-100 in spares.
Everything else won't break and guns don't have that many parts. The frame, slide and barrel will be fine and all the springs are covered in the spare kit.
Yes, been working on my final setup for a while but I now own two Identical gen 5 G19's and a standard and MOS slide for each one, so two frames, four slides.
Iron sight slides both have same XS DXT2's on them, and MOS slides have suppressor height small dot dxt2's, ch precision mounting plates, and holosun dots on em. I practice and train with one gun in either configuration, and carry the other. Both guns are all stock internals, stock trigger, etc.
I shoot regularly my carry ammo out of the carry/go time pistol to cycle the ammo out of it and clean it regularly and it keeps a lower round count which I track. The training one I track the round count so I know when to replace recoil springs and stuff and I clean it every 750-1000rds or so and lube it before each shooting session. Carry gun is at about 600rds and training gun is at about 6k rds now, I replaced the recoil spring assembly at 5k.
I have 4 IWB, and 4 OWB g19 holsters I use, all same maker, same styles, one for just Iron sights, one cut for Irons and TLR7, and then one cut for red dot and tlr7, and one cut for red dot and no light. The owb's are same thing.
I do this because I really just feel better about carrying a gun that doesn't have 10k+ rds through it with worn springs, dirty internals, etc. Also, after a class or something, it's just easier to chuck the dirty gun in the safe for the night and put on the clean one. I always bring both guns and all 4 slides to a class too, that way if I have a problem I can just grab the other one and go, don't have to fiddle f*** around, and if I want to shoot a drill with a different config I can quickly switch out slides and holsters. This also simplifies things for peripherals and mags too, I have a boat load of g19 mags and the only spare parts I need to carry are for gen5 g19's.
Yes I do still have other guns that I use and carry on occasion, but I'm not setup to be so redundant with them, they are more for collection purposes or enjoyment, while the two g19's are my "go time" or daily drivers. Also, this year I've been doing the "1 gun for the year" challenge and only really shooting one type of pistol to try to get myself really dialed in.
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All my carry guns are carried "dirty". After I disassemble/clean, I function fire and then wipe down only. Then into holster.
Remember: "dirty" does not equal "filthy"...
Enbloc be Ridin' Dirty.
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The gun I carry is a S&W Shield in .45. I own 2 so I can alternate and not beat the snot out of 1. I had 1 and shot it so much I broke the slide. S&W replaced the slide for free and I bought a second one. Hopefully that will solve the problem. I think if you're going to put thousands of rounds a year through your carry gun, you should probably have 2.
Waiting for the "I own 17 M-1 Garands" crowd to chime in.
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This is common in competitive shooting. You put tens of thousands of rounds of practice on the 'practice gun' and shoot the 'match gun' in matches.
I have multiples 2011s for Limited division, as well as Open division. I don't really consider any of them practice guns or match guns, but I do alternate shooting them to even out the use / wear
I have multiples 2011s for Limited division, as well as Open division. I don't really consider any of them practice guns or match guns, but I do alternate shooting them to even out the use / wear
I can understand the concept. If you're going to carry a firearm for emergencies then you should be proficient with it and practice makes perfect but in this case it also wears out barrels. You just want to make sure that you periodically swap them around so you know for sure that they are in operating order. If you need to use it in a self defense situation it would suck to find that you left a worn but operating firearm in the range bag in favor of a carry piece that had developed an unnoticed malfunction which will prevent it from working when it counts.
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Why does this sound to me like a Massad Ayoob thread?
Meanwhile, in Berettaville...
Epic way to mess with the guys down at Forensics...
- Three holes in the decedent.
- Three empty cases found in the gutter.
- Cases don't match suspect's piece.
Other people prefer a little variety in their life.
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I've thought about picking up a duplicate pistol, but my reasoning would be as a back up for attending training classes(which sadly isn't even near the top of my priorities at the moment).
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I have two identical guns and they are close in serial number range.
One as the primary and one as the back up.
The primary gets shot in practice also.
The two pistols switch roles every year so that the round count remains about the same between the two.
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Stupid….I definitely own identical things.
It’s a flawed concept….People get all caught up in all kinds of ridiculous thinking
If you can pull it out and it goes bang once that’s probably as far as you’re ever going to get with it
It’s a flawed concept….People get all caught up in all kinds of ridiculous thinking
If you can pull it out and it goes bang once that’s probably as far as you’re ever going to get with it
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As an afterthought, I lost count but I must be approaching 150,000 rounds through my Sig P226 9mm….There’s no way you could’ve abuse a gun more…
Every experimental round, firing underwater, forgot the brass punch so I Clear it with whatever’s handy…
Other than frog lube, the lube of choice is the closest dip stick in whatever vehicle I’m driving…
If I aim with my shoulders. Using either hand. You wouldn’t want to be within 100 feet of me.
Every experimental round, firing underwater, forgot the brass punch so I Clear it with whatever’s handy…
Other than frog lube, the lube of choice is the closest dip stick in whatever vehicle I’m driving…
If I aim with my shoulders. Using either hand. You wouldn’t want to be within 100 feet of me.
I have duplicates and don't shoot any of them
I only shoot the singles, and not much because I keep hitting what I aim at![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
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I only shoot the singles, and not much because I keep hitting what I aim at
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If I only shot a gun once a month I would probably clean it each time. I shoot many of mine 2 to 3 times a week (including my carry gun) so cleaning after each trip is basically pointless plus if I felt I HAD to clean it each time I would not shoot 2 to 3 times a week lol
You said you don't understand how people don't clean them each trip......there are people that shoot way more often than you that completely understand not cleaning a gun after each use.
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This. I found I'd skip the quick range trip on the way home w/ the carry gun because I wasn't going to have time to clean it before carrying again (if I leave the house, I'm carrying). Also guessing that Pic being a teacher means he probably doesn't carry every day.
I think, with me, that it's more of a mindset I developed in the Army, where if you're an infantryman you're cleaning your weapon literally any time you can. So once I got out and stopped having to worry about scrubbing out star chambers in the woods a few times a day, the act of sitting on a couch and taking down a pistol seemed pretty relaxing.
I think it's all about perspective. To a man who shoots 2/3 times a week, I don't shoot that often. Compared to a guy who gets out to the range once a year, though, I'm a "frequent shooter." But I'd never leave a firearm uncleaned after a range trip, even if it's just getting the schmutz out of the barrel and off the boltface.
I'm retired army so I get that concept of a clean fire arm. When I really started to get into personal owned fire arms I used to clean them every range trip like you say......because it was engrained in me. Then I slowly realized that.....I just got back from the range on Sunday afternoon.....and I'm going to shoot pins Tuesday night.......so it started to not bother me to give it a spray of ballistol and put it away. Then I started shooting more and more often.....and I realized that even with only a monthly cleaning I'm never seeing malfunctions....ever......and they are not rusting. So my routine shooting guns I clean about once a month and that's it. I don't lose any sleep over it after over a decade of this maintenance process with no rust and no malfunctions.
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