Pelosi:After Death of Kate Steinle Congress Has ‘Moral Responsibility’ on Gun Control

How about starting with securing the borders? Fining employers who hire illegals when they are found. It sounds like you're implying there is nothing that can be done to take away the "benefits" of coming illegally to America. Currently the benefits outweigh the slap on the wrist and free ride back to the south american shithole they came from. That needs to change.

Unfortunately there's really not a way to secure the borders 100%. It's not hard to accidentally drive into Canada if you're in northern VT, NH or Maine (my parents did it while beagling from VT into QC). The border with Mexico is more rural and much bigger than VT and Quebec. Plus we have a huge amount of ocean coastline from Texas to Maine and CA to Alaska. Chinese get smuggled in by shipping containers.

Plus, if we do a real hard push to secure borders, it'll jack up taxes, will tick off the anti-LEO crowd (including many here) and will probably violate someone's 4A rights, or maybe 2A rights.

If we just shoot on sight, that won't go over well internationally.

I have worked in places with illegals and the only way I can think of keeping them out of our businesses is to inspect every potential business (manufacturing, janitors, landscaping, etc.) at random, unannounced times. But then inspectors can be bribed and someone will claim this is an infringement on the rights of the business owner.
 
How about starting with securing the borders? Fining employers who hire illegals when they are found. It sounds like you're implying there is nothing that can be done to take away the "benefits" of coming illegally to America. Currently the benefits outweigh the slap on the wrist and free ride back to the south american shithole they came from. That needs to change.
Deport Pelosi back to the Soviet Union.
 
How about starting with securing the borders? Fining employers who hire illegals when they are found. It sounds like you're implying there is nothing that can be done to take away the "benefits" of coming illegally to America. Currently the benefits outweigh the slap on the wrist and free ride back to the south american shithole they came from. That needs to change.

Back when Severin was on 96.9 he would say "any companies with SSN's that don't match up or have weird characters(lots do) start fining them $100,000/day/person" easy enough to make it work with a little bit of try, and balls.
 
Imagine waking up next to this every morning?

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Back when Severin was on 96.9 he would say "any companies with SSN's that don't match up or have weird characters(lots do) start fining them $100,000/day/person" easy enough to make it work with a little bit of try, and balls.
I have not heard a Republicrat yet who understands or is willing to actually tackle immigration.

Illegal immigration is primarily an economic problem. If you give people nothing but the expectation of hard work, freedom and making your own way, then whatever numbers of people are willing to crawl under/over fence and work their ass off while paying taxes is:

1. a small number
2. people we want anyway.

Instead, we promise a welfare state for those who come illegally. Shut that down and it will slow to a dull roar that no one will care about and those that come despite the lack of welfare are net producers anyway.

You wouldn't need much of a fence if at all.

The trouble is that there are too many Republicrats bought and paid for by companies that thrive on illegal labor on an industrial scale that don't want to see this happen.

The solution is simple:
1. put the hammer down on companies willfully violating immigration laws.
- Put the hammer down harder on politicians who are accessories after the fact to immigration law violation which presently goes right to the top.
2. End the welfare state - require citizenship for public school, voting, etc...
3. End the welfare state - repeal ObamneyCare
4. End the welfare state - don't issue licenses, EBT, voter ID, etc... to illegals.

It isn't hard, it is just easier to pander and lie. If US citizens didn't have their head up their hind-quarters, they'd realize this is a good thing for them. You don't need to be racist or fascist, you just need to demand that nothing is free for me, you or anyone else, everything has to be earned and each of us has to pay the same freight for the things we want and need regardless of whatever category you want to draw.
 
You would think at least one of her handlers would clue her in that it was a stolen LE gun before she had a mic in front of her
Apparently she surrounds herself with people even dumber than she is.

She knows. She is not that stupid. But she also knows that the anti-gun people will just repeat whatever she says without looking at the facts. That's why she says what she says.
 
The solution is simple:
1. put the hammer down on companies willfully violating immigration laws.
- Put the hammer down harder on politicians who are accessories after the fact to immigration law violation which presently goes right to the top.
2. End the welfare state - require citizenship for public school, voting, etc...
3. End the welfare state - repeal ObamneyCare
4. End the welfare state - don't issue licenses, EBT, voter ID, etc... to illegals.

Add to that the fix in the 14th amendment to do away with "Anchor Babies"
Only if the Parents are in the country LEGALLY can the 14th amendment apply for the Child.

Malodave
 
She knows. She is not that stupid. But she also knows that the anti-gun people will just repeat whatever she says without looking at the facts. That's why she says what she says.

It's a toss up.
She may really be that stupid.
It certainly leaves the door open to point out the stupidity of her statement , unless she's advocating disarming LE.
 
A good portion of this board would go totally ape#(*$. You are asking for federal agents to show up at work sites and investigate a person's legal right to be in the country.

Can you imagine? A federal agent showing up at your worksite because your SSN or some other indicator is in question? There'd be calls for pitchforks and bunkers, "GO TIME HOLEY MOLEY, THERES FEDS LOOKING AT MY STUFF". That is what would happen to 30-40 million people. Or checkpoints in major cities, roving patrols. It's not like we can magic people out of the country.

The guy had 7 felony convictions and was deported 5 times. Perhaps the problem isn't a lack of checkpoints and SWATting, it's that our criminal justice system is a joke, and our borders are swiss cheese.
 
The guy had 7 felony convictions and was deported 5 times. Perhaps the problem isn't a lack of checkpoints and SWATting, it's that our criminal justice system is a joke, and our borders are swiss cheese.

This just in:

In Wake of Pier 14 Shooting, Homeland Secretary Blasts San Francisco's Sanctuary City Policy

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Tuesday criticized San Francisco's policy of not cooperating fully with immigration officials, calling it counterproductive and unacceptable.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...y-Pier-14-Shooting-Jeh-Johnson-327788991.html

"It is counterproductive to public safety to have this level of resistance to working with our immigration enforcement personnel,'' Johnson said during a talk at The Commonwealth Club in downtown San Francisco.

San Francisco's sanctuary law prohibits city employees from helping federal authorities with immigration investigations or arrests unless required by law or a warrant. It does not prohibit local law enforcement from informing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement that they've arrested someone in the country illegally for a felony offense or a person with prior felony convictions.

Wow, did someone in the government actually wake up and smell the coffee ????
 
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