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Perfecta 9mm (and other calibers)
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Kisspik002
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The tubs, I ran a few hundred rounds last week with no issues. It's great range training ammo.
mikelawtown
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brassmax 50 round boxes is fiocchi. Better than the cans. I can contest to the cans having multiple bad rounds.
I ran a metric shit-ton of S&B through my M&P and XDm when I was buying it for $65/250 rounds, which is a price point that your starting to see decent ammo for again. I never had a single issue with it in any of the 3 9mm guns I fed it to.
The only problem I've ever had with it is that they sometimes use steel cases for 9mm that look like brass. Shoots fine though.
Brin747
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I picked up a bunch of boxes of the Perfecta 9mm at the local Wally World this weekend and shot about 300 rounds of it on Sunday through various firearms (S&W 6906, Sig P290, Springfield XD9SC, CZ75P01) with zero problems.
Same here 350rds of 9mm and 40 through a Glock 22, Glock 26 and M&P 9. And I saw that they rolled back their price on 45ACP to $16.95/50!! I'm very happy with it so far.
I buy perfecta, never a problem.. ZQ however soft strikes like a mother****er
Finally got to run some of this yesterday that I had bought about a month ago and almost forgot about.
The good:
It's cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeap. American Skinflints delight. It's the same price as wolf/shit ammo, etc. It's not terribly dirty. It's accurate enough.
The bad:
It's piss weak. Even weaker than UMC is. Not good ammunition for any handgun that is sensitive to ammunition or limp wristing, etc. As an example I ran some in my G34 and had a female friend who had fingernails a little too long for shooting yesterday. I pretty much knew she was going to limp wrist it a little but that stuff stovepiped on every shot while she was holding the gun. I fired like 20 rounds of it through the G34 and had it stovepipe once myself even. Granted the gun wasn't super clean but by my G34s standards it was clean enough to run everything else. I moved her to the G17 (Gen 4) and it worked fine but I could tell this stuff was on the hair edge of being viable ammo. The only shittier ammo I've found than this is stuff like ultramax. Honestly Tulammo 9mm (steel case) will probably work guns more reliably than this, and that stuff isn't terribly hot either, but it seems to cycle the slide harder.
My Verdict:
This is good ammo for farting around/plinking with a full size duty style, extreme shit ammo tolerant gun like a G17, P226, 92FS, etc.... I would keep it the **** away from everything else. Definitely do not attempt to run this shit in an Uzi, Mac 11, etc... (semi or FA) If it even cycles those guns more than a couple of shots it'll be a miracle. It's too weak to get the job done. I would never use it to compete with, that's for sure. Most shooters are going to be better served by stuff like WWB, Federal champion, etc. Even Blazer Brass 9mm is better than this stuff and that stuff is kinda weak, too.
ETA: If fiocchi makes this it must be on its own production of shit line. I've fired tons of fiocchi and it's way more powerful than this stuff is.
-Mike
The good:
It's cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeap. American Skinflints delight. It's the same price as wolf/shit ammo, etc. It's not terribly dirty. It's accurate enough.
The bad:
It's piss weak. Even weaker than UMC is. Not good ammunition for any handgun that is sensitive to ammunition or limp wristing, etc. As an example I ran some in my G34 and had a female friend who had fingernails a little too long for shooting yesterday. I pretty much knew she was going to limp wrist it a little but that stuff stovepiped on every shot while she was holding the gun. I fired like 20 rounds of it through the G34 and had it stovepipe once myself even. Granted the gun wasn't super clean but by my G34s standards it was clean enough to run everything else. I moved her to the G17 (Gen 4) and it worked fine but I could tell this stuff was on the hair edge of being viable ammo. The only shittier ammo I've found than this is stuff like ultramax. Honestly Tulammo 9mm (steel case) will probably work guns more reliably than this, and that stuff isn't terribly hot either, but it seems to cycle the slide harder.
My Verdict:
This is good ammo for farting around/plinking with a full size duty style, extreme shit ammo tolerant gun like a G17, P226, 92FS, etc.... I would keep it the **** away from everything else. Definitely do not attempt to run this shit in an Uzi, Mac 11, etc... (semi or FA) If it even cycles those guns more than a couple of shots it'll be a miracle. It's too weak to get the job done. I would never use it to compete with, that's for sure. Most shooters are going to be better served by stuff like WWB, Federal champion, etc. Even Blazer Brass 9mm is better than this stuff and that stuff is kinda weak, too.
ETA: If fiocchi makes this it must be on its own production of shit line. I've fired tons of fiocchi and it's way more powerful than this stuff is.
-Mike
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Ran some in .38 special the other day. No problems to report.
glad i'm not the only one who had this experience.
did you try their .45acp too?
unless i had a "bad batch" their .45acp was weak as shit and inconsistent. i swear one of their 45acp rounds was double-charged....it sounded like a 357 magnum.
vickers
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I shot three boxes of this stuff last September through my HK P30L but didn't have any issues at the time. I bought another four boxes a month or two ago at Walmart. I intend on using it for IDPA practice so I will see how it runs this time around.
This stuff isn't too bad, dirty and mild power. I've found that the tula brass in the plastic can is extremely hot.
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vickers
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You were correct, just got around to shooting about half of the 200 rds of Perfecta 9mm FMJ I bought a while back and it shot fine through my HK P30L
I bought 100 rounds of this stuff to put through my M&P 9C, and so far it is the only ammo I have ever had issues with. I don't know if I got a bum batch, but about every other round was a feed failure. I also had tons ejection failures and issues with the slide not locking back on the last round. I wouldn't touch this stuff again unless I wanted to try and torture test a new firearm.
I've had no issues with the 9mm through my PPS or with the .40 through my beretta 96. Then again, I've had no ammo issues at all with the PPS, and the 96 is new to me so i don't know fully yet what it might dislike (so far nothing)
Arlo39
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I have been shooting it lately, no problems with the Shield, VP9 and just put 50 rounds of 5.56 through my new windham AR-15 yesterday with no problems. I have some .45 for my 1911 but have not shot it yet.
welp shot a bunch this past weekend at my club for our club match.... and instead of saying it worked fine and went bang, i'll play show and tell
me shooting my m&p9 with perfecta ammo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTnQ8O7Bhd4
me shooting my m&p9 with perfecta ammo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTnQ8O7Bhd4
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Wouldn't lock the slide back on my glock 19 on an empty mag. Only ammo that hasn't done that
