Preping UK Style

[Tracer1951]

I know here in the USA we have may web sites that discuss prepping for the "what if" .

A friend of mine in the UK told me that we ( Americans) are not the only people on the planet that see storm clouds on the horizon !

He send me a link to a UK based website that deals with many of the same issues we are concerned with.

Here it is: Survival UK

I looked through the site and it has some interesting stuff and different takes on things.

Makes some good reading and offers a different slant on things,,

I even found one or two ideas I had not thought of!!!

Well worth giving it a look !

 

[MisterHappy]

Don't the Limeys just say, "Help!" and the Americans send them stuff?

 

[Tracer1951]

Don't the Limeys just say, "Help!" and the Americans send them stuff?

The "Limeys"(along with other nations in Europe) fought Hitler while the US held back and didn't want to get involved. In the beginning of WW2 the US wanted to remain neutral... happy to sell material to BOTH sides! The "Limeys" were pushed back to Britain (thanks to no help from the USA). The "Limeys" Air Force stop the German invasion of Britain in the summer of 1940..stopping Hitler's advance cold,,, again with no help from the USA. It was only when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor did the USA declare war on Japan.
Lets see... Germany started the war in Sept 1939 and the USA doesn't want to get involved until Dec 1942 three years later.

Guess who was doing all the fighting and dying while the USA was just sitting on the sideline and watching ? The Limeys!

Yes we got into the war...dragged in actually. ...

Our men and women in the USA supplied the material to fight the war.

Millions of our soldier fought along side the Limeys, French and Russians with the aid we supplied them and the war was won.

In UK and Europe there are many cemeteries where you can see the white crosses of the fallen Americans ( WW2 Cemeteries - Second World War War Cemeteries by Paul Reed )

Be flippant about us "helping the Limeys", but if it wasn't for them taking a stand when we stood by and did nothing, the world and history today would be much different.

PS: Germany was working on their own nuclear bomb and actually had a head start on the USA. Had the war continued Germany would have been in a position to hit the US with nuclear bombs... because the Limeys and Europe fought Hitler for three years, Germany didn't have the time to developed it.


So who really helped who???

 

[MisterHappy]

My post was more about the current status of Formerly Great Britain - though they were arguably unprepared for WWII, despite the lessons learned from the Great War.

Yes, they fought their asses off before we got into it....but they still needed allies (as did most of the countries involved).


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My post was more about the current status of Formerly Great Britain - though they were arguably unprepared for WWII, despite the lessons learned from the Great War.

Yes, they fought their asses off before we got into it....but they still needed allies (as did most of the countries involved).


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[garandman]

The "Limeys"(along with other nations in Europe) fought Hitler while the US held back and didn't want to get involved. In the beginning of WW2 the US wanted to remain neutral... happy to sell material to BOTH sides! The "Limeys" were pushed back to Britain (thanks to no help from the USA). The "Limeys" Air Force stop the German invasion of Britain in the summer of 1940..stopping Hitler's advance cold,,, again with no help from the USA. It was only when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor did the USA declare war on Japan.
Lets see... Germany started the war in Sept 1939 and the USA doesn't want to get involved until Dec 1942 three years later.

Guess who was doing all the fighting and dying while the USA was just sitting on the sideline and watching ? The Limeys!

Yes we got into the war...dragged in actually. ...

Our men and women in the USA supplied the material to fight the war.

Millions of our soldier fought along side the Limeys, French and Russians with the aid we supplied them and the war was won.

In UK and Europe there are many cemeteries where you can see the white crosses of the fallen Americans ( WW2 Cemeteries - Second World War War Cemeteries by Paul Reed )

Be flippant about us "helping the Limeys", but if it wasn't for them taking a stand when we stood by and did nothing, the world and history today would be much different.

PS: Germany was working on their own nuclear bomb and actually had a head start on the USA. Had the war continued Germany would have been in a position to hit the US with nuclear bombs... because the Limeys and Europe fought Hitler for three years, Germany didn't have the time to developed it.


So who really helped who???

You overstate the circumstances as much in the opposite direction.

There were many good reasons why the US did not want to become involved in another land war in Europe.

Nonetheless, the US started supporting England in ways far beyond neutrality. We provided massive material and technology assistance. The US Navy started escorting convoys to England in 1940 and first engaged German Uboats early in 1941. The Lend-Lease act was designed to skirt the Neutrality Laws and provided $50 Billion in aid (that's 1941 dollars) that for all intents and purposes was a gift of the American people.

Your narrative also assumes that Britain's exposed position after having to leave most of their heavy equipment on the European mainland at Dunkirk was inevitable. If the US was short sighted and slow to respond to the Fascist threat, the same can be said of England. The Germans had been cheating on the treaties preventing the development of an Air Force, armored forces, and manpower for many years without response. The Anschluß occurred in March 1938 without any but a verbal response.

I prefer to focus on the positives of the alliance, that saw the defeat of the Fascists. Britain paid an immense price, and with 20/20 hindsight both Britain and the US might have responded earlier. It is what it is.

The possibility of an atomic bomb was discussed prior to the war and the US government was alerted in a letter from Albert Einstein (though largely ghost-written) in April 1939. The British and Americans took various steps to prevent development by the Germans of an atomic bomb, even though some say German scientists were morally opposed and actively sabotaged the effort themselves.

 

[Tracer1951]

I agree with you an MisterHappy's latest response. I enjoy history and it seems both off you have read enough about WW2 history to speak with intelligence about what happened.

We were allies and without the US the war would have been lost.

The take away I get from reading about that time was..

1) Always be aware of politicians and what they do.. and don't do

2) A evil act that goes uncheck will grow

3) The time to prepare is not when wolf is knocking at the door

4) When SHTF is on top of you, what counts is that someone is standing beside you locking and loading...not that they are late to the game

Good lessons for them in their time and good lessons for us in our time.