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Scopes are welcomed at all prone matches but not eligible for overall or classification win (midrange matches are prone)
Scopes are welcomed at all prone matches but not eligible for overall or classification win (midrange matches are prone)
Depends... With the new NRA rules this year allowing scopes on service rifles I think (unless I'm missing something in the rules) that they will be eligible to compete in the service rifle division and the overall match in MRP just as they are across the course. Of course you're correct that there are some other divisions that scopes compete in but according to the current rules can't win the match, for example rule 3.3.2 "Any Sight Match / Tactical." (This is as of 2016 anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see the NRA open up match rifles to scopes eventually.)
In any case shooters with scopes are absolutely welcome to come shoot assuming the shooter is safe and the rifle meets whatever NRA rules are applicable. F-class (including F-TR) shooters are also welcome but F-class shooters will shoot on F-class targets. FYI, here's the new rule book: http://competitions.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf
("Zeke" knows me but for those following along at home I'm the match director for the MRP matches at Reading, at least until I get fired or someone else wants to take them over.)
I think my current project falls more in line with F class. 223 rem bull barrel and still undecided on a optic. Like I said I am not concerened if I get to shoot for score. I will shoot service rifle for that. I just want to shoot my scoped rifle at more than 200
If you shoot from a bipod it's likely F-TR, if you shoot from a sling it's probably "any sight match / tactical" or possibly the catch-all "any rifle." In any case you can shoot -we can figure out which category you belong in when the time comes.
For what it's worth I built something similar to what you're talking about that I use to shoot the occasional F-TR match. I'm more of a match rifle shooter these days but F-TR is fun too.
They have a proposed Tactical rifle class now for F Class. 223 upto 308(? can't remember top caliber) limited to harris style bipods and max scope power of either 12 or 16 power, and ar based rifles. You can find it under the rule changes, Just another way to get people shooting but makes for more classes and things to keep track of
Here is the provisional rules form the new changes. My gut feeling is shoot what you have and just enjoy the sport, I do not think any match director will turn you away.
Dave
Section 23.
This probationary program will be placed in Section 23 of the Rule Book.
NRA Mid-Range (Prone) Tactical Rifle (AR)
Note: Most rules necessary for the integration of this rifle into existing competition are already in
existence and remain the same.
MID-RANGE COMPETITION FOR TACTICAL RIFLES ON THE “AR-PLATFORM”
Conceptually, this new NRA Mid-Range (Prone) Tactical Rifle (AR) program will be designed to provide
civilian, military, and police shooters with an opportunity to shoot NRA Mid-Range Prone competition
along-side of other Mid-Range Prone shooters in matches using semi-automatic rifles built on an “AR
Platform” and equipment generally thought of as being “tactical” in design and use. These rifles will be
configured so as to replicate as closely as possible the tactical rifles (semi-automatic) and equipment
used by the United States Military and America’s Law Enforcement Community in “mid-range” tactical
applications. These semi-automatic rifles will be more “off the rack” or “stock” than “competition” in nature.
They will be more of a “tactical design” than “match design” and therefore less expensive than the vast
majority of mid-range prone rifles currently in use.
These rifles will be of the “AR-Platform” variety, semi-automatic, chambered in any caliber from
.223 cal./5.56mm up to and including .308 cal./7.62mm. The courses of fire will be the same courses of
fire currently used for other NRA Mid-Range (Prone) High Power Competition (300, 500 & 600 yards) and
are designed to be fired concurrently with other forms of Mid-Range competition. The targets will be the
same targets that are used for Service Rifle, Match Rifle and Palma Rifle Mid-Range Prone competition.
Mid-range telescopic sights will be allowed, but not required. Because this is prone competition, shooters
may use tactical front rests such as Harris-type bipods and limited rear rests of the type one might find
used in military or police tactical situations.
This new style of competition is designed to be more “tactical” in spirit and for that reason
equipment normally found in other types of High Power Rifle Competition such as Match Rifle, Palma
Rifle and F-Class Rifle will not be permitted. In order to understand the spirit of this new sport one might
think of this sport as “prone Service Rifle with a bipod and a scope”. This IS NOT designed as another
version of F-Class competition.
As a practical matter, Match Directors wishing to provide this competitive shooting opportunity
within their programs will simply integrate this rifle with others already provided for within their standard
Mid-Range program. In other words, this will simply be another category of rifle to be added to those
already in existence.
These Rules should be “Provisional” to be revisited after three (3) years of operation; i.e., January
of 2020 – if approved.
3.3.3 NRA Mid-Range (Prone) Tactical Rifle (AR) (PROVISIONAL)
Any semi-automatic rifle constructed on an “AR-Style Platform” chambered in any caliber from
.233/5.56mm caliber up to and including .308 caliber/7.62mm similar in outward appearance to the
“Service Rifle” described in 3.1(c), above, equipped with the standard 10-, 20-, or 30-round box
magazine, having not less than 4 ½ pound trigger pull, with standard type “tactical” stock (Military or
Police); barrel length not to exceed 20 inches; total weight of the rifle including one empty magazine,
bipod and/or sling, if any, and sighting system (scope) may not exceed 14 pounds.
a. Stock – Must be of the type and design commonly issued to and/or used by U.S. Military or
U.S. Police; may be straight (solid), folding, or collapsible; competitive style stocks such as
those commonly found on Match Rifles, Palma Rifles, and F-Class Rifles are prohibited.
Tactical stocks with an adjustable cheek piece and/or an adjustable butt plate are permitted.
Tactical rail and/or equipment attachment system are permitted. Tactical adjustable stocks
fitted with rear monopods are permitted but the rear monopod may not be used for support.
See below and see Rule 5.2.
b. Sights – Telescopic sights, either fixed or variable, not to exceed 12x magnification. Standard
metallic, holographic and other tactical sighting systems are also permitted. Laser sighting
systems are prohibited.
c. Tactical Front Rest – detachable and collapsible (folding) tactical-style front bipod of the
“Harris-type”; or, separate soft roll or soft front bag of the type and design commonly used in
military/police “field-expedient applications” are permitted. Mechanical/machine front rests
and non-collapsible and/or mechanically adjustable bipods of the types(s) otherwise legal in
F-Class competition are prohibited. A field-expedient front rest consisting of a back pack or
range bag may be substituted, but only one such item may be used. The front rest, bipod or
otherwise, must be in direct contact with the ground. No boards, mats, rugs, clothing, towels,
or other devices may be used to level the firing point under the front rest or to support the
front rest.
d. Tactical Rear Rest – Use of a soft roll or soft rear bag without “ears” is permitted but not
required. Field-expedient rear rests consisting of one back pack or one or more items of
clothing may be used. Solid, adjustable and/or rigid rests of all kinds are prohibited F-Classstyle
rear bags with “ears” are prohibited. Neither the butt of the rifle nor any attachments
thereto (such as monopod) may touch the ground while firing or during recoil. Rear rest may
be placed on the shooter’s mat/ground cloth, but no board or other device may be placed
under the rear bag/rest or used to solidify support for the rear bag/rest, if any. See Rule 5.2.
e. Sling – Shooter may choose to use a sling permitted by Rule 3.13(b). Competition-style slings
and sling systems of the types commonly used in Match Rifle and Palma Rifle competition
are prohibited. Tactical slings and sling systems specifically designed for tactical field
applications with “AR Platform” tactical rifles may be used. Slings are not required.
f. Shooting Mats – See Rule 3.10
g. Magazine – Standard 10-, 20-, or 30-round magazines must be used. Reduced capacity
magazines and “sleds” are prohibited. Magazine may not be used for support and may not
touch the ground during firing or recoil. See Rule 5.2.
h. Barrel Accoutrements/Devices – Standard, factory installed “flash hiders” are permitted.
Competition-style muzzle brakes, compensators, and barrel tuners are prohibited
Suppressors are prohibited.
i. Ammunition – See Rule 3.17
j. Spotting Scope – See Rule 3.8
k. Interpretive Intent – It is the intent of this rule that this semi-automatic rifle and the equipment
used therewith most closely resemble the semi-automatic tactical rifles and equipment issued
to and sometimes used by U.S. Military and U.S. Law Enforcement in tactical situations at the
distances utilized in standard NRA Mid-Range Prone competition. This is not meant to be
another form of F-Class competition. Rifles and equipment designed specifically for
competitive shooting applications are generally outside the spirit and intent of this rule. See
Rule 3.18.
Thank you for posting this....I was looking around earlier and couldn't find it. So know I need to decide to get a 12x scope or not. I was looking at 32x and up ?
Having not shot rifle competitively for a few yrs. I can't see going back into it with this level of rules,, do people stay up late dreaming this stuff up? I go to enjoy myself, not to get suffocated with rules, clauses, exceptions etc. What a nightmare.
They are actually loosing up the rules to get more people shooting. They still need to define what is legal and what isn't with the new shooting options.
thanks again .....poking around I found rimfire F class ....ugghh that sounds like fun.
I was using a Savage 12 FV (26" heavy barrel) in .308 w/ a harris bipod and 10x fixed power scope in TR class for F-class shoots, and doing respectable. Would that be no longer legal being a bolt gun. Strictly ARs for this new tactical class?
" If you were shooting F-TR before you can still shoot F-TR today." THIS,,, I don't speak this language, need English. I used to shoot long distance high power at Cheshire Cty. in keene. Rules then were pretty straight forward.