Real Estate lease restricting firearms

[Mark L]

Is a lease for real estate rental in MA that prohibits firearms on the premises, at least for the renter, as opposed to visitors, legal and enforceable?

 

[wilson911]

Yes.

 

[milktree]

Yes.

How about a lease that prohibits dildos?

How about a lease that prohibits alcohol?

Why is there a carve out for guns?

 

[one-eyed Jack]

Is a lease for real estate rental in MA that prohibits firearms on the premises, at least for the renter, as opposed to visitors, legal and enforceable?

My oldest son is "Mark L" also. (LOL). Download and read the "Standard Form Commercial Lease", "Greater Boston Real Estate Board". Read that. If I can help more, feel free to call me anytime at 978-263-9177. Jack.

 

[wilson911]

How about a lease that prohibits dildos?

How about a lease that prohibits alcohol?

Why is there a carve out for guns?

You can prohibit dildos and smoking. Don't like it? Don't sign the lease.

There are a number of these that the state protects in a legal lease, dildos and guns are not on that list.

 

[bullseye]

You can prohibit dildos and smoking. Don't like it? Don't sign the lease.

There are a number of these that the state protects in a legal lease, dildos and guns are not on that list.

Only the exclusively rich are allowed guns in their leased out penthouse as well as assault dildo's!!

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Yes.

Citation please?

You can prohibit dildos and smoking. Don't like it? Don't sign the lease.

There are a number of these that the state protects in a legal lease, dildos and guns are not on that list.\

Or just be prepared with "I am not causing trouble, stop bothering me or I will exercise every one of my tenant rights while withholding rent"

 

[Marty McFly]

Im guessing it is a shit rolls down hill situation for the homeowner insurance on the landlord.

 

[CATI]

It would not be criminal but they could use it as you breaking the terms of the lease.
Only way they find out is something bad happens. Example would be a self defense situation or a charge or someone sees you carrying something
At that point you have more important matters to deal with over breaking a lease

(armed)Self defense, you live, you get kicked out of apartment
(unarmed) Self defense, you die, your family cleans out the apartment

 

[Marty McFly]

It would not be criminal but they could use it as you breaking the terms of the lease.
Only way they find out is something bad happens. Example would be a self defense situation or a charge or someone sees you carrying something
At that point you have more important matters to deal with over breaking a lease

(armed)Self defense, you live, you get kicked out of apartment
(unarmed) Self defense, you die, your family cleans out the apartment

Or they see your safe while fixing the water heater

 

[Asaltweapon]

f*** em.
Nuff said.
No roof. No rent. Now let’s play the eviction game.

 

[Kevin_NH]

Is a lease for real estate rental in MA that prohibits firearms on the premises, at least for the renter, as opposed to visitors, legal and enforceable?

Just cross out the clause, initial the change, and scan the document for posterity.

Now the ball is in their court.

 

[CATI]

Or they see your safe while fixing the water heater

Yeah.. I never lived that apartment life so that could be an issue
If they see the safe. What is in the safe? Documents? guns? etc..
They have no right to know what is in the safe

You are not getting charged for possession of a legal firearm in a apartment if the lease does not allow them


I think most people just want to get paid on time with little hassle and they use "standard" documents they print from a google search

 

[Marty McFly]

Yeah.. I never lived that apartment life so that could be an issue
If they see the safe. What is in the safe? Documents? guns? etc..
They have no right to know what is in the safe

You are not getting charged for possession of a legal firearm in a apartment if the lease does not allow them


I think most people just want to get paid on time with little hassle and they use "standard" documents they print from a google search

I rented for years. Now I own. But a safe is one thing. But we all know how we put stickers on them. Im sure they have an idea by the henry and s&w stickers

 

[wilson911]

Citation please?

I'm sorry, did you expect a real lawyer? I thought this was a place to speculate wildly.

BTW....I stand by my answer. If you dont like the terms of a lease, don't sign it. This is not discrimination.

 

[Asaltweapon]

I rented for years. Now I own. But a safe is one thing. But we all know how we put stickers on them. Im sure they have an idea by the henry and s&w stickers

No stickers on my safes.

 

[Marty McFly]

No stickers on my safes.

So rent away buddy.

Mine look like NYC telephone poles

 

[1903Collector]

I have worked for several multi-family property management companies over the years and the no firearms thing has been on each companies lease. In reality no one really gives a shit, in 30 years I have never seen anyone evicted or non-renewed because of it and I have been in many units with gun safes in plain view. Now if you do a bonehead thing and leave your shotgun on the couch and someone goes in and see's and reports it then yea, your probably gonna have a problem.

 

[Path-Finder]

You can prohibit dildos and smoking. Don't like it? Don't sign the lease.

There are a number of these that the state protects in a legal lease, dildos and guns are not on that list.

That's not exactly true. Just because you put something in a lease doesn't mean it's legal to enforce. At least that's what my lawyer told me when I set up a standard lease for my rentals.

 

[Kevin_NH]

I'm sorry, did you expect a real lawyer? I thought this was a place to speculate wildly.

BTW....I stand by my answer. If you dont like the terms of a lease, don't sign it. This is not discrimination.

In theory, any contract is a negotiated agreement, you can add or remove clauses as you choose, then the prospective landlord can counter.

Many people (including landlords) don't understand this, see leasing as a 'take it or leave it" situation. In a tight housing market, that may be true.

 

[Asaltweapon]

So rent away buddy.

Mine look like NYC telephone poles

I’m not renting and not doing it again until they take the house that’s 100% paid for.
I guess that is when I’m dead.

 

[Marty McFly]

I’m not renting and not doing it again until they take the house that’s 100% paid for.
I guess that is when I’m dead.

Amen. Me too. I was a great tenant but the landlord idea always stressed me

 

[Wickedcoolname]

Don't ask, don't tell.

 

[alan226]

A firearm owner is not a protected class. The Fair Housing Act makes it illegal to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex, disability, familial status, or national origin

 

[CrackPot]

A firearm owner is not a protected class. The Fair Housing Act makes it illegal to harass persons because of race, color, religion, sex, disability, familial status, or national origin

Then let them know you are ammosexual, that black guns matter, and worship John MOSES Browning

 

[safetyfirst2125]

Interesting side effect: if you ever have to use your gun in self defense, you’re homeless.

 

[Reptile]

I read that it is illegal for the government restrict gun in public housing. There was a court case.

I can’t imagine if gun ownership, which is a civil right, be restricted and enforced in a lease.

 

[Asaltweapon]

A firearm owner is not a protected class. The Fair Housing Act makes it illegal to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex, disability, familial status, or national origin

I could be a gay black gun owner.

 

[Marty McFly]

I could be a gay black gun owner.

The trifecta

 

[whatluck]

assault dildo's!!

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