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Your posts here indicate you clearly do not.

.357 Sig at least likely outsold all of that shit combined when it was in its
prime. Because federal LE agencies used it to some degree. Then when that fad wore out so went the caliber.    It also was right around the time that people figured out that "9mm wasn't really as bad as they thought".    When .40 got incapacitated, it stumbled over and took .357 Sig with it, despite the fact that it was far less dumb than its parent cartridge. I met a whole bunch of people who had .357 sig handguns or conversions to
go to .357 Sig. I've met maybe like 2 people that bought a .45 GAP pistol on purpose.

It's absolutely not though.    This is the part that is lost on you. Yes, it has a reinforced casehead.   A feature which was never needed for oh, the better part of a century. I can lierally load up .45 ACP +++++ stuff and not blow up a gun with regular cases just
fine.

Sometimes it does depending on the application.   (For example, look at the adoption of stuff like 6.5 Kardashian, it got popular because people figured out it was easier to hit stuff with it at distance.   )    Or things like .300 BLK etc.

The market for 5.7 x 28 is pretty small. Although it definitely outsells crap like .45 GAP and a lot of the other hipster cartridges you speak of, I think its mostly because of "ZOMG FiveSeven" and the fact that it makes fireballs without much recoil.   It's fun to shoot even if it has no practical application. I think I sold a total of ONE of them where the guy said he was actually going to use his 5.7 pistol to kill small pests with it.

There's nothing lazy about it, it does absolutely nothing useful that 45 ACP doesnt already do and didn't do like for god only knows how many decades before it existed. Not sure why this is so difficult for you to understand.

The very existence of .45 GAP created more problems than it would ever hope to solve.   (gun shops often had to hide it behind the counter so nippleheads wouldn't buy it thinking it was .45 ACP, for starters.   )

I don't really care about that in this case, but your defense of all this hipster bullshit is literally one of the funniest things ive ever witnessed on a forum. "Oh imma defend all the shit that was an abject, resounding failure because I think, it was secretly good. "

No, it's not.   It was just crap.    Like take off the fedora for a minute and touch grass or something.

<blockquote data-quote="drgrant" data-source="post: 9459117" data-attributes="member: 859">Your posts here indicate you clearly do not..357 Sig at least likely outsold all of that shit combined when it was in itsprime.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Because federal LE agencies used it to some degree.&nbsp; &nbsp; Then when that fad wore out so went the caliber.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It also was right around the time that people figured out that &quot;9mm wasn&#039;t really as bad as they thought&quot;.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; When .40 got incapacitated,&nbsp; it&nbsp; stumbled over and took .357 Sig with it,&nbsp; despite the fact that it was far less dumb than its parent cartridge.&nbsp; &nbsp; I met a whole bunch of people who had .357 sig handguns or conversions togo to .357 Sig.&nbsp; &nbsp; I&#039;ve met maybe like 2 people that bought a .45 GAP pistol on purpose.&nbsp; <img src="/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="[rofl]" title="ROFL&nbsp; &nbsp; [rofl]" data-shortname="[rofl]" />&nbsp; It&#039;s absolutely not though.&nbsp; &nbsp; <img src="/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="[rofl]" title="ROFL&nbsp; &nbsp; [rofl]" data-shortname="[rofl]" />&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; This is the part that is lost on you.&nbsp; &nbsp; Yes, it has a reinforced casehead.&nbsp;&nbsp; A feature which was never needed for oh, the better part of a century.&nbsp; I can lierally load up .45 ACP +++++ stuff and not blow up a gun with regular cases justfine.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sometimes it does depending on the application.&nbsp;&nbsp; (For example, look at the adoption of stuff like 6.5 Kardashian,&nbsp; it got popular because people figured out it was easier to hit stuff with it at distance.&nbsp;&nbsp; )&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Or things like .300 BLK etc. The market for 5.7 x 28 is pretty small.&nbsp; &nbsp; Although it definitely outsells crap like .45 GAP and a lot of the other hipster cartridges you speak of,&nbsp; I think its mostly because of &quot;ZOMG FiveSeven&quot;&nbsp; and the fact that it makes fireballs without much recoil.&nbsp;&nbsp; It&#039;s fun to shoot even if it has no practical application.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I think I sold a total of ONE of them where the guy said he was actually going to use his 5.7 pistol to kill small pests with it.&nbsp; There&#039;s nothing lazy about it, it does absolutely nothing useful that 45 ACP doesnt already do and didn&#039;t do like for god only knows how many decades before it existed.&nbsp; Not sure why this is so difficult for you to understand.The very existence of .45 GAP created more problems than it would ever hope to solve.&nbsp;&nbsp; (gun shops often had to hide it behind the counter so nippleheads wouldn&#039;t buy it thinking it was .45 ACP,&nbsp; for starters.&nbsp;&nbsp; ) I don&#039;t really care about that in this case, but your defense of all this hipster bullshit is literally one of the funniest things ive ever witnessed on a forum.&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;Oh imma defend all the shit that was an abject,&nbsp; resounding failure because I think, it was secretly good. &quot; <img src="/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="[rofl]" title="ROFL&nbsp; &nbsp; [rofl]" data-shortname="[rofl]" />No, it&#039;s not.&nbsp;&nbsp; It was just crap.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Like take off the fedora for a minute and touch grass or something.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="drgrant, post: 9459117, member: 859"] Your posts here indicate you clearly do not. .357 Sig at least likely outsold all of that shit combined when it was in its prime. Because federal LE agencies used it to some degree. Then when that fad wore out so went the caliber. It also was right around the time that people figured out that "9mm wasn't really as bad as they thought". When .40 got incapacitated, it stumbled over and took .357 Sig with it, despite the fact that it was far less dumb than its parent cartridge. I met a whole bunch of people who had .357 sig handguns or conversions to go to .357 Sig. I've met maybe like 2 people that bought a .45 GAP pistol on purpose. [rofl] It's absolutely not though. [rofl] This is the part that is lost on you. Yes, it has a reinforced casehead. A feature which was never needed for oh, the better part of a century. I can lierally load up .45 ACP +++++ stuff and not blow up a gun with regular cases just fine. Sometimes it does depending on the application. (For example, look at the adoption of stuff like 6.5 Kardashian, it got popular because people figured out it was easier to hit stuff with it at distance. ) Or things like .300 BLK etc. The market for 5.7 x 28 is pretty small. Although it definitely outsells crap like .45 GAP and a lot of the other hipster cartridges you speak of, I think its mostly because of "ZOMG FiveSeven" and the fact that it makes fireballs without much recoil. It's fun to shoot even if it has no practical application. I think I sold a total of ONE of them where the guy said he was actually going to use his 5.7 pistol to kill small pests with it. There's nothing lazy about it, it does [B][I]absolutely nothing[/I][/B] useful that 45 ACP doesnt already do and didn't do like for god only knows how many decades before it existed. Not sure why this is so difficult for you to understand. The very existence of .45 GAP created more problems than it would ever hope to solve. (gun shops often had to hide it behind the counter so nippleheads wouldn't buy it thinking it was .45 ACP, for starters. ) I don't really care about that in this case, but your defense of all this hipster bullshit is literally one of the funniest things ive ever witnessed on a forum. "Oh imma defend all the shit that was an abject, resounding failure because I think, it was secretly good. " [rofl] No, it's not. It was just crap. Like take off the fedora for a minute and touch grass or something. [/QUOTE]

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