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Jim85IROC

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Back in Feb I picked up a 10/22 50th Anniversary model at a gun show. This was the model I was after, and I finally got the chance to get out and shoot it today. I'd read that some folks had issues with the barrel being canted beyond the range of the sight adjustment, and it looks like I'm one of them.

My rear sight is adjusted as far as it can go:
Ruger_sights_zpsbnrobdks.jpg


And at 50 yards, this is my group: (The picture isn't upside down, the target was stapled to the backplate that way)
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I guess I'll be calling Ruger to send it in. :(
 
Jim85IROC said:
Back in Feb I picked up a 10/22 50th Anniversary model at a gun show. This was the model I was after, and I finally got the chance to get out and shoot it today. I'd read that some folks had issues with the barrel being canted beyond the range of the sight adjustment, and it looks like I'm one of them.

My rear sight is adjusted as far as it can go:
Ruger_sights_zpsbnrobdks.jpg


And at 50 yards, this is my group: (The picture isn't upside down, the target was stapled to the backplate that way)
Ruger_sights2_zps540a7bgf.jpg


I guess I'll be calling Ruger to send it in. :(
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Ruger customer service is the best in the biz. They will take care of it.
 
I sure would like to see a top view of the entire rifle. You should be hitting about 2 feet to the left? It's hard to understand how something could be that far off. You ought to open a shooting gallery. You'd never have to give away a thing.
 
Steve Marshall said:
I sure would like to see a top view of the entire rifle. You should be hitting about 2 feet to the left? It's hard to understand how something could be that far off. You ought to open a shooting gallery. You'd never have to give away a thing.
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From what I've read, other guys rifles were even farther off. One said that at 20 yards, he couldn't even get on paper with the sight adjusted all the way. Mine's not that bad. Oddly, this seems to get progressively worse as I go farther back. At 25 yards I was just a hair to the right, but more or less "good enough". I went back to 50 and I was way off. That could be partly me, but even "good enough" shouldn't need me to have the sight adjusted all the way.

Anyway, here are pics of the gun from the top. Eyeballing it, everything looks fine.
Ruger_sights3_zpslq1h1uo9.jpg

Ruger_sights4_zpsdlqtu1zt.jpg
 
I got a NRA edition Takedown. After about 20 rounds, the rear sight literally fell off. The NRA edition has fiberoptics adjustable rear sights (red rear, green front) mounted on the barrel.
After I tightened it up, it was fine, and I found it very accurate. I had about 1 inch spread at 20 yards, and I am not a good shot. The limiting factor is really my tired eyes.
 
Robert1 said:
I got a NRA edition Takedown. After about 20 rounds, the rear sight literally fell off. The NRA edition has fiberoptics adjustable rear sights (red rear, green front) mounted on the barrel.
After I tightened it up, it was fine, and I found it very accurate. I had about 1 inch spread at 20 yards, and I am not a good shot. The limiting factor is really my tired eyes.
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I have a "regular" takedown, and the pin worked it's way out of my rear sight as well, and once back in, the sight doesn't adjust for windage, unless I'm missing it. It's about 5-7" right at 50 yards

I was going to put a scope on it from the beginning anyway (same tired eyes lol) so i didn't bother, but was pretty disappointed non the less.
 
Jim85IROC said:
From what I've read, other guys rifles were even farther off. One said that at 20 yards, he couldn't even get on paper with the sight adjusted all the way. Mine's not that bad. Oddly, this seems to get progressively worse as I go farther back. At 25 yards I was just a hair to the right, but more or less "good enough". I went back to 50 and I was way off. That could be partly me, but even "good enough" shouldn't need me to have the sight adjusted all the way.

Anyway, here are pics of the gun from the top. Eyeballing it, everything looks fine.
Ruger_sights3_zpslq1h1uo9.jpg

Ruger_sights4_zpsdlqtu1zt.jpg
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Where is you bayonet lug Freestater?
 
Jim85IROC said:
Ruger_sights_zpsbnrobdks.jpg
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that rear sight is canted, the whole sight unit. look how much white space is on top, compare it to the bottom, the bottom rear of the sight, see how far into the rounded corner of the rifle it sits. it's not even close to the top corner. it also looks just a bit crooked also, not squared i guess one could say. i'd loosen that hex screw and see if i could straighten it out then give it another try. try centering it on the center mold line on the stock, that should be roughly close to a true center.
 
How is the front sight is it off to the left......I always rough windage zero drifting front sight.

Personally I would ship it off to ruger just like you have it.
 
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greencobra said:
that rear sight is canted, the whole sight unit. look how much white space is on top, compare it to the bottom, the bottom rear of the sight, see how far into the rounded corner of the rifle it sits. it's not even close to the top corner. it also looks just a bit crooked also, not squared i guess one could say. i'd loosen that hex screw and see if i could straighten it out then give it another try. try centering it on the center mold line on the stock, that should be roughly close to a true center.
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I don't see it. I'm looking at the full-res version of the pic, and the sight looks fine. On the full-res version you can see that there's a notch or a relief on the corners of the sight post that may be giving the appearance of it being canted, but that relief is on the top and bottom. The middle of the post seems to be square with the back of the rail. That said, I'll take a closer look at the gun tonight instead of relying on pics. It would be great if you're right. When I bought the gun the rear sight post was loose, so it's quite possible that it wasn't perfect when I tightened it back up.

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mac1911 said:
How is the front sight is it off to the left......I always rough windage zero drifting front sight.

Personally I would ship it off to ruger just like you have it.
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Front sight looks perfect as far as I can see. It's well centered in the groove, and seems to be perfectly vertical.
 
I'm suspecting that Ruger like some of the other gun companies are pumping out guns that previously wouldn't have left the factory floor. They are banking that the majority are in spec and it's easier to deal with the occasional lemon after the sale than deal with it at the factory. All about product, product, product and filling orders . At least this is what I think I'm seeing. Easier to fill production quotas and fix after the fact.

Good thing is they have some of the best customer service in the business. Bad thing is that gun should have never left the factory that way to begin with.
 
greencobra said:
that rear sight is canted, the whole sight unit. look how much white space is on top, compare it to the bottom, the bottom rear of the sight, see how far into the rounded corner of the rifle it sits. it's not even close to the top corner. it also looks just a bit crooked also, not squared i guess one could say. i'd loosen that hex screw and see if i could straighten it out then give it another try. try centering it on the center mold line on the stock, that should be roughly close to a true center.
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I see what your talking about there. I would try to recenter the whole sight assembly and try shooting it again.
 
Must be a bit a bad luck. I recently picked up a 10/22 and I was hitting 50 yds with no problems, no issues with the gun. And I have little rifle experience.
 
mark056 said:
I'm suspecting that Ruger like some of the other gun companies are pumping out guns that previously wouldn't have left the factory floor. They are banking that the majority are in spec and it's easier to deal with the occasional lemon after the sale than deal with it at the factory. All about product, product, product and filling orders . At least this is what I think I'm seeing. Easier to fill production quotas and fix after the fact.

Good thing is they have some of the best customer service in the business. Bad thing is that gun should have never left the factory that way to begin with.
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Plus they know a percentage won't take the time to ship it off to ruger. Instead they will sell it or trade it in. Hope it works out
 
fishhawk357 said:
I see what your talking about there. I would try to recenter the whole sight assembly and try shooting it again.
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I did that last night. Even with the screw loosened up, there's nowhere near enough movement to account for how far I have it adjusted. At most there was 1/16" of movement. I'm going to call Ruger today.
 
Ruger's phone system works about as well as the gun I'm sending back. I called their number, and picked from 2 layers of menus, to finally get to a Rimfire person (i.e. their NH branch) after a bit of a wait on hold. I tell the nice lady with the southern accent my problems, and she says she's got to transfer me to NH. I'm not sure why the 2-layer deep menu system didn't get me where I belong, but I digress. After another short hold, I tell the nice lady with the southern accent my problems, and she says she's got to transfer me to NH. WTF? Didn't I just do this? After another short hold, I get... a nice lady with a southern accent. What the holy F? so I ask if this is the same person I just talked to twice. Apparently it's not, and this person is in NH. haha. Oops. I get everything set up, except that I don't have my serial number, so I'll have to call back.

The next day, I go through the menu system again, and after a good 15-20 minutes on hold, I tell the nice lady with the southern accent my problems, and she says she's got to transfer me to NH. Eventually the nice lady in NH without a southern accent takes my SN and issues a pickup tag for UPS.
 
I had a GP100 that had a problem with the bluing, it was flaking off. Called Ruger, 5 minutes on the phone and I've got a call tag in my email box. Couple of weeks later I get it back with some seriously beautiful bluing- not the matte black kind that they come with from the factory but deep shiny blue. So nice. Wish they'd sell them that way.

I guess I could be grumpy that I had to send it back but in the end it cost me $0 and the gun came back better than new. I was happy enough for sure.
 
Rifle came back today. I'm happy with the turn around time. It came in a new box, which is nice because the old one had a hole. It's the same gun I sent. Invoice states "ADJUSTED SIGHTS, PIC RAIL, BARREL" I didn't realize that the barrel could be adjusted, but hopefully that's true and this time it'll shoot straight.
 
mark056 said:
I'm suspecting that Ruger like some of the other gun companies are pumping out guns that previously wouldn't have left the factory floor. They are banking that the majority are in spec and it's easier to deal with the occasional lemon after the sale than deal with it at the factory. All about product, product, product and filling orders . At least this is what I think I'm seeing. Easier to fill production quotas and fix after the fact.

Good thing is they have some of the best customer service in the business. Bad thing is that gun should have never left the factory that way to begin with.
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sad, but true! I've owned many Rugers, and still do, over my 54 years of life, and 36 years of gun ownership. they're good, but "less good" than they used to be!
 
Jim85IROC said:
Can the V-block be trimmed or shimmed to change the barrel's position?
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Not really - the barrel has a shoulder on it that fits against the front face of the receiver, with the shank reaching inside to the bolt. The V block pulls that shoulder in tight against the receiver face. If Ruger had left a burr on the shoulder's face, or didn't cut the shoulder square, or left a chip between the shoulder and receiver, that could have canted the barrel over to the point where your rifle was shooting. Did they send it back with the same barrel, or a new one?
 

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