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Can you use a full size 15rd mag in the compact series? Thanks.
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Yes, but it hangs out. Someone makes a sleeve that slips on the FS mags so that the grip is even on a Compact model.
Unless you are LE, it's a felony to possess the hi-cap (>10 rd) mags in MA! [Exception for mags made prior to 9/13/1994, but the S&W M&P is so new that this wouldn't be possible.]
Unless you are LE, it's a felony to possess the hi-cap (>10 rd) mags in MA! [Exception for mags made prior to 9/13/1994, but the S&W M&P is so new that this wouldn't be possible.]
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Anybody with actual knowledge if they could help.
I just wanted a quick answer on buying a SW MP 40c with an LTC-B.
I didn't need anybody's bullshit.
And if the question was answered by someone who also gave me shit, naturally I want another opinion.
I just wanted a quick answer on buying a SW MP 40c with an LTC-B.
I didn't need anybody's bullshit.
And if the question was answered by someone who also gave me shit, naturally I want another opinion.
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That's what I was thinking. I called the Smith & Wesson Shooting Sports Center in Springfield but the person on the phone wasn't quite sure. He says that it only takes a 10 rounder. But he recommended I call back when one of his managers is on duty during a week day.
I read LenS earlier post in this thread and that's what got me thinking that perhaps I couldn't own an M&P .40 compact. It's like there are no easy answers when it comes to Massachusetts.
I just want to thank you pupchow for your no-nonsense response. It was very refreshing. If there is anybody else with a definitive answer, I would love to hear it.
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MO, I never answered YOUR question. I was answering the OP's question.
If my name wasn't mentioned, I wouldn't have responded to your question for the following (confusing) reasons:
- Ch. 180 (Acts of 1998) which gave us a re-write of Ch. 140 of MGLs was written during the Fed Ban on hi-caps. The pertinent part (to your question) is that ANY gun that was ORIGINALLY SOLD to consumers (not LEO) with hi-cap mags became a "hi-cap gun" requiring a LTC-A (for handguns) AND a list was created by GCAB/EOPS itemizing the guns it applied to. ALSO banned was the POSSESSION of any hi-cap mag that fit a low-cap gun, unless you possessed the proper license (LTC-A for handguns, LTC-B for long guns).
- In 2004 when the Fed Ban was lifted (expired), the MA Ban still is in effect (forever) and things get real muddy! Mfrs were now selling new guns with hi-cap mags to consumers in most states, with 10 rd mags in backwater places like MA.
- A STRICT READING (IANAL) of the MGL in effect here would seem to indicate that ANY handgun that is NOW SOLD with hi-caps in the USA (free states, MA need not apply) would require a MA LTC-A even though it is not sold to consumers in MA with hi-cap mags.
- Nobody in GCAB/EOPS has woken up to the fact that the list of hi-cap guns now could be revised to be a mile long. Not sure anyone here wants to poke that bear in the eye!
So in closing, I personally would not know exactly what to tell you to answer your question. If you possess it with a LTC-B, you could get jammed up, even if a dealer sells it to you as a low-cap gun.
Sorry if I confused you above, not intending to, just pointing out that this is a very muddy, gray area with no decisive answer. You'd likely get different answers from different (very competent firearms) attorneys on this one.
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Xak, your understanding is wrong!!
Ever seen a 22 rd mag for a 1911? I have at many gun shows. The M&P 45 CAN ACCEPT a 14 rd mag, made by S&W! They don't ship the gun anywhere with that mag, but they do offer it. So now what do you buy with a LTC-B (under your interpretation) . . . other than a revolver?
Almost every pistol with a mag that fits in a well CAN ACCEPT a hi-cap mag!! Even if there is no hi-cap mag made for it.
I suggest that you read the applicable law or even the wording at the top of the EOPS hi-cap list.
Ever seen a 22 rd mag for a 1911? I have at many gun shows. The M&P 45 CAN ACCEPT a 14 rd mag, made by S&W! They don't ship the gun anywhere with that mag, but they do offer it. So now what do you buy with a LTC-B (under your interpretation) . . . other than a revolver?
Almost every pistol with a mag that fits in a well CAN ACCEPT a hi-cap mag!! Even if there is no hi-cap mag made for it.
I suggest that you read the applicable law or even the wording at the top of the EOPS hi-cap list.
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Looks like you'll be good to go on that model. All S&W SKUs are indeed 10 rd mags.
Ooops, guess I was wrong. Way back when I had my Class B I tried to buy a Sig P226 .40. Even though it came with 10 round mags they wouldn't sell it to me because it could accept full capacity mags.
BTW, I just got an M&P .40 last week and shot it on Friday. It is awesome. I don't know where all the fuss came from about the Mass trigger. Mine is fantastic. The gun is pretty accurate for a .40 as well. Can't wait to get a 357 barrel for it.
BTW, I just got an M&P .40 last week and shot it on Friday. It is awesome. I don't know where all the fuss came from about the Mass trigger. Mine is fantastic. The gun is pretty accurate for a .40 as well. Can't wait to get a 357 barrel for it.
