Safely shooting old shotguns?

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Note -- I'm a total shotgun newbie.

My wife has inherited a few old 20ga shotguns. One claims to be a Hunter Arms Fulton (see my other, recent post on that), one is a Savage 24 S-series .22LR/20ga combo, and the last is an Eastern Arms (which I understand was a Kenmore-esque brand sold at Sears, Wards, etc. in the first half of the 20th century).

Since these guns are decades old, possibly as old as 80 years for one of them, we're wondering how they'll work with modern ammo. In particular, I'm wondering about the charge in a modern standard shotgun shell and worried that it's higher than what the gun was designed for. I'm also wondering about the shot type. I assume we'd want to shoot lead, not steel? (We're not going to be going waterfowling with it :)

Another question is about slugs. The all-purpose range at the club we belong to (reasonably) does not allow shot. Only slugs can be fired from a shotgun. Do slugs have significantly more recoil than shot and/or cause more barrel pressure? Would shooting slugs be something for us to be worried about?

Finally, we'd like to have a qualified gunsmith examine these things to make sure the barrels are in good shape and are safe to fire through and that the guns are overall safe to fire. Any recommendations or pointers on where to get recommendations? We're in Arlington, for what it's worth.
 
Cabelas sells ammo made for old shotguns. Forget the manufacturer but it specifically designed for them.
 
1oz is 1oz be it shot or slug its the powder charge that will depend "kick" there is a web site ballistic specialties or something like that that has or had info on shooting older guns with current ammo.
 
Cabelas sells ammo made for old shotguns. Forget the manufacturer but it specifically designed for them.

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Almost all are British loads made to CIP standards. CIP pressure standard for 12 gauge non-magnum shotgun loads is a little lower than SAAMI spec.

Also, make shure the chamber length is ascertained. It is most likely 2 1/2" or 2 9/16" and not the usual modern standard of 2 3/4".
 
1oz is 1oz be it shot or slug its the powder charge that will depend "kick" there is a web site ballistic specialties or something like that that has or had info on shooting older guns with current ammo.

The amount of shot in the load is no indication that pressure will be lower than a heavier load.

Consult any reloading manual to see the folly of such a simplistic assumption.
 
Classic Upland Supply (Forget where they are, but a Web search will find them) also has ammo for "fine" doubles ( though some may say that a Monkey Ward Special is not fine, any double is fine with me!).

If it's a fluid steel ( as opposed to Damascus) barrel, you should be fine. If you have any worries, though, definitely have a smith (or, at the very least, someone that's familliar with the things) take a look- see.
Pitting to the insides of the barrels can be a problem ( non-corosive ammo is fairly new compared to these pieces)

If the lockup of the action is tight, it's not Damascus, and the chamber length is known, low-pressure loads shoudl be fine.
 
lagrangian

The man you want to talk with is named Mike Orlen - he just does shotgun barrels and is located here in MA - He'll help you out and is well known for his work.

The savage combo you should be fine - the Fulton and Eastern may need to be looked at. Research the Eastern to see who made it - my sears gun turned out to be a fulton made.

Personally, I wouldn't run slugs in them as they were designed for birds.

Post some pics if you can - good luck
 
Before you go nuts trying to find ammo, find out if its an issue. 80 years is not that old.

The guns you have to be careful with are the ones built by hammering steel strips around a mandrel.

Your best bet is to take the guns to an expert gunsmith and have them evaluated. Might cost you a few bucks, but you'll know EXACTLY what you have.
 
My wife has inherited a few old 20ga shotguns. One claims to be a Hunter Arms Fulton (see my other, recent post on that), one is a Savage 24 S-series .22LR/20ga combo, and the last is an Eastern Arms (which I understand was a Kenmore-esque brand sold at Sears, Wards, etc. in the first half of the 20th century).

From Blue Book, 28th Edition:

Hunter Arms Co - Prev. mfr located in Fulton, NY circa 1891-1945. Company was formed to mfr LC Smith shotguns circa 1891. During 1915, Hunter Arms began producing its own line of shotguns. The Fulton is listed under LC Smith.

Fulton - Plain stock with 1/1 pistol grip. SxS mfd 1915-1945 (may be "fluid steel" per description, but not certain). "These models are high quality, inexpensive boxlocks built with quality similar to field grade LC Smiths. The receiver, forend iron, trigger guard and triggers were all machined (not stamped) from forgings. These models have excellent durability and there is collector interest." For 20ga add 50% to values noted here: $250-450 (50-95%)

Savage 24S - made 1964-71, typical values $225-315 (80-98%) This should be fine with modern loads.

Eastern Arms 101.1 = Stevens 94B

Stevens 94 (no B noted in book) - single shot, breakopen, hammer, 6-1/4 #, mfg 1929-disc. $50-85 (80-98%)

Eastern Arms 101.23 = Savage 416 - oddly I do not find this Savage model listed in the Blue Book.

I hope some of the above info is useful.
 
Classic Upland Supply (Forget where they are, but a Web search will find them) also has ammo for "fine" doubles ( though some may say that a Monkey Ward Special is not fine, any double is fine with me!).

If it's a fluid steel ( as opposed to Damascus) barrel, you should be fine. If you have any worries, though, definitely have a smith (or, at the very least, someone that's familliar with the things) take a look- see.
Pitting to the insides of the barrels can be a problem ( non-corosive ammo is fairly new compared to these pieces)

If the lockup of the action is tight, it's not Damascus, and the chamber length is known, low-pressure loads shoudl be fine.

Damascus is fine if it is in current proof and does not show signs of bore pitting, but that is only easy to determine with British guns.
 
Don't even consider slugs until you know what the choke restriction of the barrels are.

You are going to need to get the full picture here to determine what will be safe to fire through those barrels. Consult with someone who truly knows their stuff.
 
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