SBS now officially out of the question in MA?

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Given the letter from the CHSB that was brought to light by Hickson as a result of the fiasco with member M9116's SBR application, are factory SBS's on a Form 4 officially verboten in MA now?
 
Given the letter from the CHSB that was brought to light by Hickson as a result of the fiasco with member M9116's SBR application, are factory SBS's on a Form 4 officially verboten in MA now?

Seems that way, if the ATF is actually using that particular letter as guidance... Of course, there is a problem in that is says they will approve Form 2s. If a SOT where to make an existing shotgun into a SBS in MA, they would be in violation of the sawed-off shotgun law, as there is no exception in it for manufactures (like there is for silencers...). They also say there is no way to verify how a shotgun was originally manufactured, which isn't quite true... Any FFL/SOT who was to make a SBS would have a bound book, with a entry for shotgun in it when it was made, which would be pretty hard evidence that it was Title II from birth.

There is also no exceptions in the law for LE agencies... I would think this would be a bigger problem, as any agency in possession of a SBS would have to jump through the same proof of origin hoops.

--EasyD
 
There is also no exceptions in the law for LE agencies... I would think this would be a bigger problem, as any agency in possession of a SBS would have to jump through the same proof of origin hoops.

Course... food for thought... do LE originated NFA transfers even undergo the same level of scrutiny? I kind of doubt it. Does BATFE make them wait for months and months, too? Or do they just rubber stamp it after verifying the authenticity of the agency in question?

-Mike
 
Course... food for thought... do LE originated NFA transfers even undergo the same level of scrutiny? I kind of doubt it. Does BATFE make them wait for months and months, too? Or do they just rubber stamp it after verifying the authenticity of the agency in question?

-Mike

Tax exempt too.
 
looking at this:

""Sawed Off Shotguns" - Massachusetts has a law that strictly prohibits what they call "Sawed Off Shotguns." In order for an NFA SBS to be legal in Massachusetts, it must have been originally manufactured, (by a licensed manufacturer) that way. It is illegal to cut down a shotgun barrel no matter who you are in Massachusetts. It is also the State's position that it is illegal to make your own SBS or shotgun AOW, therefore we will not approve Form 1s to make a short barreled shotgun or a shotgun AOW by a non-licensee/non-SOT. Since our branch doesn't record how an SBS or a Shotgun AOW was originally made, we will approve Form 2s, 3s, and Form 5s for short barreled shotguns and Shotgun AOWs. "


Doesn't this mean that form 1 (individual making an aow or sbs) is out but a standard transfer from a dealer would be ok??
 
looking at this:

""Sawed Off Shotguns" - Massachusetts has a law that strictly prohibits what they call "Sawed Off Shotguns." In order for an NFA SBS to be legal in Massachusetts, it must have been originally manufactured, (by a licensed manufacturer) that way. It is illegal to cut down a shotgun barrel no matter who you are in Massachusetts. It is also the State's position that it is illegal to make your own SBS or shotgun AOW, therefore we will not approve Form 1s to make a short barreled shotgun or a shotgun AOW by a non-licensee/non-SOT. Since our branch doesn't record how an SBS or a Shotgun AOW was originally made, we will approve Form 2s, 3s, and Form 5s for short barreled shotguns and Shotgun AOWs. "


Doesn't this mean that form 1 (individual making an aow or sbs) is out but a standard transfer from a dealer would be ok??

No (well not unless you are also a dealer)... "Since our branch doesn't record how an SBS or a Shotgun AOW was originally made, we will approve Form 2s, 3s, and Form 5s for short barreled shotguns and Shotgun AOWs" Doesn't say anything about form 4's...
 
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