Both Rittenhouse and Zimmerman went out of there way to put themselves in the situation they ended up in, don't get me wrong, they had every right to do what they did. but with that came extra scrutiny from the left
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Self defense shoot aftermath in MA vs other state scenario
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Both Rittenhouse and Zimmerman went out of there way to put themselves in the situation they ended up in, don't get me wrong, they had every right to do what they did. but with that came extra scrutiny from the left
pdm
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Isn't that exactly what happened to him? He basically went into hiding while the DA played games, then quietly dropped everything.
no kyle lived in Illinois with his mom, part of the trial was based on this fact and crossing state lines and who held possession of the rifle bla bla bla I watch the entire trial
pdm
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Didn't he also work there as a lifeguard? I might be misremembering.
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(to where his dad and his family lived)
alan226
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Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should...
how dare he legally exist outside. didn't he get the memo that soros rats were in charge?
Tartakovsky
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Rittenhouse is also dealing with multiple libel, defamation and slander cases by major media networks that called him a murderer, white supremacist, etc, where it’s likely he’ll cash in big.
that money will never hit his bank account.
dcmdon
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I'm going to start by saying I haven't read all 3 pages of posts. I just found this thread.
But this is what I think will happen.
After researching and reading all the articles on defensive gun uses (DGUs) in MA, I'm pretty confident that if you assume it's 100% clean, there won't be any arrest.
I think there is also a reasonable chance that your LTC will be pulled while they investigate. Which means that in the time after a DGU you need to get your firearms out of your possession. Without charges you won't be a federally prohibited person, so simply driving them over state lines into a free state should suffice.
But if you don't have a friend in another state, then bring them to your local dealer and have them book them in.
Of note, is that if you have AR type firearms you should remove the uppers, since they aren't firearms and give them to a friend to hold.
If the cops come, they will take all of your scopes, gun parts, etc, even though the law doesn't authorize that. Bring them to a friends also.
If you want to press things, you could make the argument that a stripped frame, while a firearm per fed law, is not a firearm per MA law and is therefore not subject to any MA firearms laws. So if you strip everything down and hand the lowers and frames to a local gun hating friend who does not have a LTC, then you will be safe. Note that MA safe storage laws don't apply to stripped lowers/frames. So the friend would not have to own a safe.
I wouldn't do that, but it's legally sound. IMHO, the best thing to do is simply move them out of state. It's not logistically complex, expensive or time consuming and is 100% legal.
Then, if nothing happens and your town does not pull your LTC, it's easy and free to get them back.
But this is what I think will happen.
After researching and reading all the articles on defensive gun uses (DGUs) in MA, I'm pretty confident that if you assume it's 100% clean, there won't be any arrest.
I think there is also a reasonable chance that your LTC will be pulled while they investigate. Which means that in the time after a DGU you need to get your firearms out of your possession. Without charges you won't be a federally prohibited person, so simply driving them over state lines into a free state should suffice.
But if you don't have a friend in another state, then bring them to your local dealer and have them book them in.
Of note, is that if you have AR type firearms you should remove the uppers, since they aren't firearms and give them to a friend to hold.
If the cops come, they will take all of your scopes, gun parts, etc, even though the law doesn't authorize that. Bring them to a friends also.
If you want to press things, you could make the argument that a stripped frame, while a firearm per fed law, is not a firearm per MA law and is therefore not subject to any MA firearms laws. So if you strip everything down and hand the lowers and frames to a local gun hating friend who does not have a LTC, then you will be safe. Note that MA safe storage laws don't apply to stripped lowers/frames. So the friend would not have to own a safe.
I wouldn't do that, but it's legally sound. IMHO, the best thing to do is simply move them out of state. It's not logistically complex, expensive or time consuming and is 100% legal.
Then, if nothing happens and your town does not pull your LTC, it's easy and free to get them back.
dcmdon
NES Member
Oh yes it will. I can't remember the name of his attorney, but the guy he has is a heavy hitter who is representing him on contingency. He wouldn't be wasting his time if there wasn't a payoff.
I hear you on this too. I would like to move to NH (trying to make plans to in the next 3 years) but with my job industry it is hard to leave the Boston Metro area and find something similar in a place like NH.
I would think someone would be hard pressed to be able to do all that themselves in the immediate aftermath of a defense shooting.
Well, nowadays that "Smells Like Teen Spirit".
It's worth noting though that if he's dealing with civil bs It's because of the high profile of his case. Most of the time attorneys won't even take those suits unless there's a big gold pot for them....
Garys
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Six hours to drive across Texas. Ha!
On a good day DFW to Austin is 4 hours. Austin to South Padre Island is 6 hours. Texarcana to El Paso is probably 2, but could be 3 days.
Unless you've been there, and I don't know if you have, people just don't understand how big it is.
It's likely that there are counties in TX bigger than MA.
On a good day DFW to Austin is 4 hours. Austin to South Padre Island is 6 hours. Texarcana to El Paso is probably 2, but could be 3 days.
Unless you've been there, and I don't know if you have, people just don't understand how big it is.
It's likely that there are counties in TX bigger than MA.
Garys
NES Member
Here is what a nyc reality is. We just got same sort of people to take power. Just need to be realistic now that all laws and common sense are no longer applicable.
nypost.com
Manhattan garage worker charged with attempted murder after shooting thief
A Manhattan parking garage attendant who was shot twice while confronting an alleged thief — then wrestled the gun away and opened fire on the suspect — has been charged with attempted …
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