Sig 1911 max adj sight

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Hey guys im looking for a little help. So i bought a sig 1911 max and found im shooting like 3-4 "low. This gun has an adjustable rear sight. Even after 4 clicks up in elevation it is still 3-4 inches below where i am aiming. I was looking at the side of the sight and notices a hole with female thread that is absent any screws. Does anyone know if there is supposed to be something there?
 

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Ive looked at a dozen of photos of that model on line and many don't have that hole at all.

However.....even if there was a screw that was supposed to be in it I don't see how it would have an effect on elevation. It just runs straight into the "meat" of the dovetail. Look at it.....it's in the dovetail......there is no way that hole effects elevation.

Where is the elevation adjustment in that sight? The flat head screw shown in the pic is your windage.

What distance are you using to sight it in?

Is the sight maxed out on elevation or can you keep adjusting for elevation. 3-4 clicks is not alot if your hitting 3-4 inches low and sighting in at like 25 feet. On an old Ruger mark III I had it took like 15 to 20 clicks to move the impact where I needed it when sighting in at 25 feet.
 
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whacko said:
Ive looked at a dozen of photos of that model on line and many don't have that hole at all.

However.....even if there was a screw that was supposed to be in it I don't see how it would have an effect on elevation. It just runs straight into the "meat" of the dovetail. Look at it.....it's in the dovetail......there is no way that hole effects elevation.

Where is the elevation adjustment in that sight? The flat head screw shown in the pic is your windage.

What distance are you using to sight it in?

Is the sight maxed out on elevation or can you keep adjusting for elevation. 3-4 clicks is not alot if your hitting 3-4 inches low and sighting in at like 25 feet. On an old Ruger mark III I had it took like 15 to 20 clicks to move the impact where I needed it when sighting in at 25 feet.
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I am shooting at about 30-35 feet. I will confess i have never sighted in a pistol before only rifles. Based on what you are saying i definitely did not do enough adjustment. I will have to give it another try. That hole on the side is bugging me though. Maybe ill just shoot sig an email and see what they have to say.
 
btnh6668 said:
I am shooting at about 30-35 feet. I will confess i have never sighted in a pistol before only rifles. Based on what you are saying i definitely did not do enough adjustment. I will have to give it another try. That hole on the side is bugging me though. Maybe ill just shoot sig an email and see what they have to say.
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4 clicks is generally not much adjustment at all at that distance.

As far as that hole like I said I've seen photos with and without it. None had a screw in there and even if there was it would do nothing to effect elevation.
 
kope said:
Does the sight actually move when you adjust elevation? Maybe there is supposed to be a turned down set screw in the hole?
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The little adjustment i did, i saw no movement. When i look directly into the hole i can see the spring for the height adjustment. Even if it serves no purpose i find it odd to have that opening there allowing crap to get into the spring. Strange.
 
elevation adjustment should be on top, not on the side
your rear sight appears to be fairly low relatively to the base, so i'm not surprised if your POI is low
if the sight is snug in the dovetail, i would not worry about the hole on the side of the sight
if not sure about details i would reach out to Sig CS they can figure out answers for you
Sig does all sorts of silly shit with the sights. sometimes good sometimes junk
 
front sight seems lower then my other two fiber optic front sights i have on different guns. ive been reading on the sig forum about what they call combat sights. Looks like i need to aim above where i would normally aim. So instead of middle of center, ill have to aim top of center. I will get to the range this week and give that a try and see how that works out.
 
Funny i just posted a my 2 acquisitions on the gallery forum and noticed this on the original picture i took. It appears to actually have a screw where the hole currently is. So what ever was there obviously fell off. sig max.jpg
 
Must be a hole for the spring grease then .

But comparing the 2 photos, it looks like the elevation screw is working.
 
I have the sig 1911 target model (which is for sale by the way 😄) it does not have that hole in the sights. I very much doubt that it is there to grease the elevation spring as I can't think of any reason you,d grease a spring that doesn't really ever move once sights are set and doesn't really come in contact with anything. A more likely senerio and I feel like I'm reaching here, might be some sort of set screw that keeps the set screw that locks the sight into the dovetail in place...if you were to completely back out the sight elevation screw you could then flip the sight up and over and you will then see a set screw that holds the sight in place in the dove tail ( this set screw can loosen up witch can cause your sights to come loose in the dovetail. If you have bomar style rear sighs I believe the sight elevation screw itself is what locks the sight into the dovetail in which case they Definetly wouldn't use a set screw nor would you grease it. As mentioned above its worth a call to sig
 
btnh6668 said:
front sight seems lower then my other two fiber optic front sights i have on different guns. ive been reading on the sig forum about what they call combat sights. Looks like i need to aim above where i would normally aim. So instead of middle of center, ill have to aim top of center. I will get to the range this week and give that a try and see how that works out.
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You have adjustable sights for a reason. i also feel you should not be holding over at such short range.

at that distance 35' you need to raise your rear sight .06" or so.
Just like rifles you zero to where you want to hold and get the impact you want.
Unless im setting up for service pistol with known bulls eye size and distance I like my pistols zeroed point of aim to equal point of impact at the distance most shot.
 
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at the distance i was shooting i would not be far off target. My groupings were good but all in the lower spot. I had my sig 365 with me as well and from the same distance shot where i was aiming. I would understand your question if this was my first time shooting a 1911 but ive owned 5 and never had this issue. With any handgun to be honest. Well other than something i was doing wrong.
 
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at the distance i was shooting i would not be far off target. My groupings were good but all in the lower spot. I had my sig 365 with me as well and from the same distance shot where i was aiming. I would understand your question if this was my first time shooting a 1911 but ive owned 5 and never had this issue. With any handgun to be honest. Well other than something i was doing wrong.
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Very well , now just crank that rear sight up.
IIRC "most" of those style sights are aprox 1moa increments?
So at 4" low at 35' your going to need to crank it a good amount.
 
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btnh6668 said:
Thanks mac. I will crank it up further once i figure out from sig what the deal is with the screw that is missing.
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Does the hole go all the way? Is there anything to set a set screw against in that hole?
Is your elevation screw held with a detenet ?
I would have to dig my 1911 out with the bomar style sights.

its simple to get a rough Idea how much you need to move your sights.
sight radius x correction ÷ distance in inches.

6.5" (roughly 1911 ) x 4" ( center of your group) =26
420"/26= . 0619"
So your sight needs to move . 0619" to move your impact 4" at 35'
This works for up/down/left/right
remember front sight is opposite
Move the sight left to move impact right , right to go left , down to go up , up to go down.
A cheap set of calipers will speed up the process.
I have several $20 sets that are "good enough" for this type of work.
 
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Just heard back from Sig. They said there should be an elevation set screw in that hole. They said i can either send them the slide and they will install a new sight or they can send me a new sight and get it installed locally. Anyone have experience with sig's turn around time?
 
btnh6668 said:
Just heard back from Sig. They said there should be an elevation set screw in that hole. They said i can either send them the slide and they will install a new sight or they can send me a new sight and get it installed locally. Anyone have experience with sig's turn around time?
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Get the new sight, remove set screw and install set screw on current sight.
Go to range figure out your zero loosen set screw adjust sight elevation then tighten set screw.
 
Ha for shits and giggles (which i love doing both) i opened the case it came in and flipped it upside down and tapped it a few times and look what came flying out. Not 100% but i believe that is what i am looking for. 20200305_174840_002.jpg 20200305_174742.jpg
 
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