ReluctantDecoy
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Sig P365 owners
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dwarven1
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Wait - THIS doesn't affect the function of your firearm?
So this is a range toy and you don't carry it, I assume?
I don't get attached to anything (except my wife. She even asked why I couldn't find one I like, and keep it, like I've kept her
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). Firearms just serve as "an emergency cash source". Clean? You mean I have to clean it? Guess I better keep the Glock. I've been spoiled by running agency Glocks that rarely got cleaned, and were always battered and beaten. (everyone swapped them off each shift).
I have a p365 bought beginning of 2020, have hundreds of rounds through it with no issues, absolutely trust it, but I do keep a spare striker assembly and recoil spring assembly for it in my parts bin.
I still carry a G19 with a tlr7a on it most of the time. I try to carry what fits my hands and what I train with. Try shooting a 2 day 1500rd class with a p365 and let me know how your palm feels... or try making 25yd first round head shots in an active shooter drill, which gun can you do it with? I know I can run a g26 better just because it fills my hand better than a p365, I can make those shots with my p365 no problem but I'll definitely be slower. A g26 isn't much harder to carry than a p365, it's like splitting hairs. Carrying a gun shouldn't really be about comfort, it's about what works.
Bottom line is, P365 is really too f***ing small to fight with unless you have tiny hands, I only carry it when concealment is more of a priority. P365's are reliable but will probably never be as robust as a g26 or g19 as far as round count or reliability is concerned. Also, with my g19, I can carry 32 rounds with only 2 magazines. I've got 16 in the gun and a 15rd with +1 in my pocket, and I'm getting basically full velocity and penetration out of a 4" barrel, with a 3" barrel you lose velocity and penetration.
Rocky Mosasaurus
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I didn’t describe it that well in the previous post. Basically, when you go to eject a full mag the first bullet is popped out slightly from the mag or completely. This makes packing up the gun after a day of carrying a PITA because you need to carry out an extra action when unloading the firearm. On the range it doesn’t affect function which is why I still carry it from time to time when I don’t want to carry a brick in my pants like one of my Glocks.
Rocky Mosasaurus
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P938 Dropping Rounds? Try This.
Like so many folks here at ST, my P938 has a habit of pooping out a loose round when I drop the mag to top it off after chambering one. I've tried to view it as a "cute" feature that makes the 938 so darned lovable, but to be honest it's an annoyance. I've had an idea for a possible solution...
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M60
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LOL. Isn't the fact that you fix far more Glocks than Sigs, due to the fact that far more Glocks are sold than Sigs.
Disclaimer. I have both Sigs and Glocks, so no favoring one over the other here.
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ReluctantDecoy
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P938 Dropping Rounds? Try This.
Like so many folks here at ST, my P938 has a habit of pooping out a loose round when I drop the mag to top it off after chambering one. I've tried to view it as a "cute" feature that makes the 938 so darned lovable, but to be honest it's an annoyance. I've had an idea for a possible solution...
Seems like this is quite possibly the smallest one can go with a 1911-like 9mm design, as tolerances are TIGHT and there is a bit of rubbing going on with the second round in a mag, when chambering the first round.
Interesting solution. Have you tried polishing yours (the gun, that is)?
There’s a lot of clapped out trash Glocks in MA owned by like 4+ people, the first two of which never did maintenance or ran the gun enough to know it wasn’t working right. Or put shitty mods or f***ed with springs, etc.
You are right though with regards to representation for example I have had more Glocks fixed by the factory then other brands but I also own / have owned more Glocks than any other brand like four times over.
Rocky Mosasaurus
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I have not attempted polishing yet because the problem hasn’t been something that has necessarily been making me inspired to “go under the hood,” but then again originally I only found the thread discussing possible issues that could cause it and I just found this one I posted today, so I may look into it to see if I can fix it.
M60
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I guess I've been lucky. I've had 6 sigs and 12 Glocks over time. I presentky have 2 Sigs and 3 Glocks. Although I've had twice as many Glocks as Sigs, I've never had a problem with any of them.
Nick Fury
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I don't get attached to anything (except my wife. She even asked why I couldn't find one I like, and keep it, like I've kept her
Umm ok... At the time when you first got here it seemed more like a naked man seeking a raincoat but hey maybe your more comfortable in these stable times. I was going to offer help but lord even I am starting to see how that usually goes...
AHM
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My Broken/malfunctioning Handgun History:
1 x AMT BACK-UP DAO .380- Firing pin exploded because dry fired too much. Machinist fabricated a couple pins to fix.
1 x Seecamp LWS 32 - f*** these stupid guns. Somehow mine broke (maybe I was clumsy and bent the spring?) Seecamp fixed it.
1x Ruger MKII .22 LR I picked up used. Sear was all f***ed up, trigger would crunch, gun would then fire if you breathed on it after that point, lol. Factory resolved.
1 x HK USPc .40 - Sear spring failure - gun turned into DAO until spring replaced. Bruce Gray sent me a spring, gratis.
1 x Sig X5 Competition - gun jams with reloads (extraction failures) works fine with most commercial ammo. Never fixed, new owner worked around it
1x Sig P220 Stainless - gun worked, but trigger was f***ing terrible and creepy. Instead of even pretending the factory would fix, I traded this off for a cheap AK.
2x Sig P320 9mm handgns, one compact, one full size. Factory Recall bullshit. Ugh. Factory eventually made good on them.
1 x Glock 17L Gen 2 - poor ejection / BTF - sent to factory, completely resolved
1 x Glock 17 Gen4 - Poor Ejection / Jams / BTF - sent to factory, completely resolved (this was one of the very early Gen4s, they all had these issues)
3 x Glock 21SF + 1 x Gen4s all f***ed up. (BTF Issues) Eventually Glock replaced the last one and I sold it. I now have a 21SF and a 21 Gen4 that are flawless, though, so there's that.
1 x Glock 42 - Dry fire only issue - trigger would not reset. Glock rep fixed gun in store, problem resolved
5 x broken 1911 issues I have had gunsmiths fix. (I love 1911s but I also think they are the biggest f***ing pieces of shit on the planet, simultaneously) thankfully none of the fixes were ever expensive, and usually pretty convenient. This count also includes the broken f***ing CRAPBER I had, too. That I still rant about.
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1 x broken S&W 686-5 - 357 magnum revolver (light strikes, fixed by factory )
By the sheer numbers "Glocks and 1911s are the worst"
Problem is that statement, without context is somewhat disingenuous.
I have owned 28 Glock handguns in my lifetime. In that realm, only ever having 7 that were ever even kinda f***ed up, isn't a whole heck of a lot. Even out of those Glock issues, none of them resulted in a gun that was completely unusable, just annoying. Contrast that with various 1911 failures which basically meant a dead or unsafe gun to use. All of those the gun either died in place or some safety issue was apparent that made it obviously unsafe to continue use. (one of them, the grip safety stopped functioning properly).
If we used "out of box experience to failure point distance on average" as a model for reliability, basically everyone would suck horribly compared to HK. I'm not even a major HK fag on this forum but that is the uncomfortable truth.
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I'm confused. Been on here for a number of years. Did leave NH in 2018 for 8 months to "retire" but came back in 2019. Retirement didn't work out due to an injury. I'm also traumatized. First by the mental image your post presents, followed by AHM's visual.
AHM
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M60
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Well AMT backup. I had one once. I gave it away. Nuff said. My Hk's have all been flawless. I just don't care for them.My Broken/malfunctioning Handgun History:
1 x AMT BACK-UP DAO .380- Firing pin exploded because dry fired too much. Machinist fabricated a couple pins to fix.
1 x Seecamp LWS 32 - f*** these stupid guns. Somehow mine broke (maybe I was clumsy and bent the spring?) Seecamp fixed it.
1x Ruger MKII .22 LR I picked up used. Sear was all f***ed up, trigger would crunch, gun would then fire if you breathed on it after that point, lol. Factory resolved.
1 x HK USPc .40 - Sear spring failure - gun turned into DAO until spring replaced. Bruce Gray sent me a spring, gratis.
1 x Sig X5 Competition - gun jams with reloads (extraction failures) works fine with most commercial ammo. Never fixed, new owner worked around it
1x Sig P220 Stainless - gun worked, but trigger was f***ing terrible and creepy. Instead of even pretending the factory would fix, I traded this off for a cheap AK.
2x Sig P320 9mm handgns, one compact, one full size. Factory Recall bullshit. Ugh. Factory eventually made good on them.
1 x Glock 17L Gen 2 - poor ejection / BTF - sent to factory, completely resolved
1 x Glock 17 Gen4 - Poor Ejection / Jams / BTF - sent to factory, completely resolved (this was one of the very early Gen4s, they all had these issues)
3 x Glock 21SF + 1 x Gen4s all f***ed up. (BTF Issues) Eventually Glock replaced the last one and I sold it. I now have a 21SF and a 21 Gen4 that are flawless, though, so there's that.
1 x Glock 42 - Dry fire only issue - trigger would not reset. Glock rep fixed gun in store, problem resolved
5 x broken 1911 issues I have had gunsmiths fix. (I love 1911s but I also think they are the biggest f***ing pieces of shit on the planet, simultaneously) thankfully none of the fixes were ever expensive, and usually pretty convenient. This count also includes the broken f***ing CRAPBER I had, too. That I still rant about.
1 x broken S&W 686-5 - 357 magnum revolver (light strikes, fixed by factory )
By the sheer numbers "Glocks and 1911s are the worst"
Problem is that statement, without context is somewhat disingenuous.
I have owned 28 Glock handguns in my lifetime. In that realm, only ever having 7 that were ever even kinda f***ed up, isn't a whole heck of a lot. Even out of those Glock issues, none of them resulted in a gun that was completely unusable, just annoying. Contrast that with various 1911 failures which basically meant a dead or unsafe gun to use. All of those the gun either died in place or some safety issue was apparent that made it obviously unsafe to continue use. (one of them, the grip safety stopped functioning properly).
If we used "out of box experience to failure point distance on average" as a model for reliability, basically everyone would suck horribly compared to HK. I'm not even a major HK fag on this forum but that is the uncomfortable truth.
That 21SF makes a great night stand cannon. I got a 21SF frame for my 21. It spends it evenings in my nightstand, along with a Glock 19 and the old faithful 2.5"Smith model 66, cuz, you know, it's a Smith 66.My Broken/malfunctioning Handgun History:
1 x AMT BACK-UP DAO .380- Firing pin exploded because dry fired too much. Machinist fabricated a couple pins to fix.
1 x Seecamp LWS 32 - f*** these stupid guns. Somehow mine broke (maybe I was clumsy and bent the spring?) Seecamp fixed it.
1x Ruger MKII .22 LR I picked up used. Sear was all f***ed up, trigger would crunch, gun would then fire if you breathed on it after that point, lol. Factory resolved.
1 x HK USPc .40 - Sear spring failure - gun turned into DAO until spring replaced. Bruce Gray sent me a spring, gratis.
1 x Sig X5 Competition - gun jams with reloads (extraction failures) works fine with most commercial ammo. Never fixed, new owner worked around it
1x Sig P220 Stainless - gun worked, but trigger was f***ing terrible and creepy. Instead of even pretending the factory would fix, I traded this off for a cheap AK.
2x Sig P320 9mm handgns, one compact, one full size. Factory Recall bullshit. Ugh. Factory eventually made good on them.
1 x Glock 17L Gen 2 - poor ejection / BTF - sent to factory, completely resolved
1 x Glock 17 Gen4 - Poor Ejection / Jams / BTF - sent to factory, completely resolved (this was one of the very early Gen4s, they all had these issues)
3 x Glock 21SF + 1 x Gen4s all f***ed up. (BTF Issues) Eventually Glock replaced the last one and I sold it. I now have a 21SF and a 21 Gen4 that are flawless, though, so there's that.
1 x Glock 42 - Dry fire only issue - trigger would not reset. Glock rep fixed gun in store, problem resolved
5 x broken 1911 issues I have had gunsmiths fix. (I love 1911s but I also think they are the biggest f***ing pieces of shit on the planet, simultaneously) thankfully none of the fixes were ever expensive, and usually pretty convenient. This count also includes the broken f***ing CRAPBER I had, too. That I still rant about.
1 x broken S&W 686-5 - 357 magnum revolver (light strikes, fixed by factory )
By the sheer numbers "Glocks and 1911s are the worst"
Problem is that statement, without context is somewhat disingenuous.
I have owned 28 Glock handguns in my lifetime. In that realm, only ever having 7 that were ever even kinda f***ed up, isn't a whole heck of a lot. Even out of those Glock issues, none of them resulted in a gun that was completely unusable, just annoying. Contrast that with various 1911 failures which basically meant a dead or unsafe gun to use. All of those the gun either died in place or some safety issue was apparent that made it obviously unsafe to continue use. (one of them, the grip safety stopped functioning properly).
If we used "out of box experience to failure point distance on average" as a model for reliability, basically everyone would suck horribly compared to HK. I'm not even a major HK fag on this forum but that is the uncomfortable truth.
nitsuj
NES Member
I mean, clean is relative, if I go to the range and shoot 50 rounds, I don’t clean it, if I put 100 through it I pull a bore snake through the barrel and take a look at how dirty it is, if it’s not super dirty or gritty I’ll leave it and oil if needed, if there’s a ton of stuff built up I’ll clean it, at the end of the day I’m carrying it for personal protection, I want to be 1000% sure I’m leaving no room for error, maybe I go overboard, but should I need to use it, I dont want a 5-10 minute task to cost me my life...I also make it a habit to clean everything after I go to the range, some times it’s overkill sometimes it’s neededI don't get attached to anything (except my wife. She even asked why I couldn't find one I like, and keep it, like I've kept her
Clean? You mean I have to clean it? Guess I better keep the Glock. I've been spoiled by running agency Glocks that rarely got cleaned, and were always battered and beaten. (everyone swapped them off each shift).
Agree- but a great addition, which I am doing, is throwing the xl grip module on my 365. (Many refer to this as the 365x) Concealability meets grip confidence. A co. named tactical developments sells base plates for $15 so you can even use your original 10rnd mags in the new xl grip. Highly recommend this swap. I should have done this sooner.
Sig P365XL Manual Safety Grip Module in Black - Sig Sauer Grip
10-XL Conversion Basepad for SIG P365XL
This basepad replacement will allow SIG P365 10 round mags to fit in the P365 XL Grip Frame. NOT FOR 10 ROUND LIMITED MAGS that came with the P365XL (look for the dimple on the side of the mag). Those are physically longer and are compatible with any of our 12 rnd basepads designed for the XL...
tactical.dev
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AHM
NES Member
It means home reloaders can't reuse the primers.
People care because it means you got a s*** Rev p365 LOL that's why nobody will buy the used ones because nobody wants any of the AIDS out of the original production run with those f****** things.
That's weird.
People care because it means you got a s*** Rev p365 LOL that's why nobody will buy the used ones because nobody wants any of the AIDS out of the original production run with those f****** things.
I honestly can't tell where the edges of mockery and fabrication are.
Do some of them do it, and some not?
This seems like complaining about a bottle opener because it leaves a mark on the cap.
If you want to spend your day reading people gripe about it, google can help you.
Sig revised the striker design after a certain serial # to address the issue, so it’s easy to tell which ones are ‘problem’ guns.
