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I read someplace that the new 625s aren't as accurate with stainless as they were with carbon. Any comments?

FS lists the 686 as the 'one' gun they would have if they were only permitted one.

Anyone with experience with both care to comment?
 
Tyrion said:
I read someplace that the new 625s aren't as accurate with stainless as they were with carbon. Any comments?

FS lists the 686 as the 'one' gun they would have if they were only permitted one.

Anyone with experience with both care to comment?
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My comment is that whoever wrote what you read has no idea what they are talking about.

There was never a 625 made from any other steel than Stainless
 
With all due respect to Four Seasons I don't they rated the 686 over the 625. I would tend to beliive that they suggested the 686 as all around gun to also carry.

The 625-8 is a little different than previous 625's. It's a 4 inch with a shorter cylinder.

The 625-8 cylinder has been shortened, so the bullet spends less time before engaging the rifling.

The rifiling has also been improved for shooting lead and the barrel and forcing cone are closer to the cylinder.

The 625 was made famous for it's accuracy and it's moonclip reloading as range gun.

But it makes no difference what 625 you get, they are fantastic revolvers and used as a range gun they are the best revolver S&W ever made.
 
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Round Gun Shooter said:
My comment is that whoever wrote what you read has no idea what they are talking about.

There was never a 625 made from any other steel than Stainless
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I think the OP mightbe comparing a 625 to a 25. Both guns will outshot most of the memebers on this board.

You may be the exception RGS.
 
Both the 625 and the 686 are excellent guns. The 686 L-frame is a bit smaller than the 625 N-frame. Both are large, heavy guns. The 686 offers you the option of shooting everything from light .38 Spcl loads up to full house .357 Mag. Personally, I prefer the 625 because the combination of the moonclips and short, stubby 45 ACP cartridges make it easier to reload quickly. But both are outstanding guns.

I prefer pre-lock S&W revolvers.
 
My 625 would shoot rings around a 686. Most accurate (and fun) revolver I have ever owned and I love my vintage S&W's.

Tyrion said:
I read someplace that the new 625s aren't as accurate with stainless as they were with carbon. Any comments?

FS lists the 686 as the 'one' gun they would have if they were only permitted one.

Anyone with experience with both care to comment?
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depicts said:
Jerry Michulek uses a stainless 625. 'Nuff said.

Both are great guns. Moonclips makes the625 faster.
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I have a 4" 625 and a number of 686's and they are all accurate.

As for 'clips being faster than speedloaders - BS - I load about the same and so does Jerry Michulek.
 
Timberwolf said:
As for 'clips being faster than speedloaders - BS - I load about the same and so does Jerry Michulek.
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That has not been my experience.

As for Jerry, he's Jerry, I'm not and I never will be. He can shoot faster and more accurately holding his gun upside down and pulling the trigger with his pinky finger than I can shooting normally.
 
Timberwolf said:
I have a 4" 625 and a number of 686's and they are all accurate.

As for 'clips being faster than speedloaders - BS - I load about the same and so does Jerry Michulek.
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Yes, I'm sure YOU are equally fast with moonclips or speedloaders. That's YOU!

At first I got mad, because I'm not used to people telling me things I post are BS (unless I'm obviously kidding.) Then I thought, OK, who is this young shooter who doesn't know WHY moonclips work better. So I calmed down, didn't give you bad rep for calling my info BS, and decided to share with you..

Not BS, fact!!!! If it was the same Jerry would use them for his speed shooting shows. Jerry might use speed loaders once in awhile on other guns, , but since a 625, cut for moonclips... WON"T EJECT the shells without a rim, unless you use .45 Auto Rim, you'll never get your second six in the gun before the guy with the moon clips. Not only that, but moonclipped cartridges weigh less than cartridges in speedloaders. Speedloaders also break. You can carry more moonclipped reloads tucked in your belt than you can speedloaders that need to be in your pocket or with an additional carrying device, with it's added weight and cost.

As for Jerry being Jerry, yes he can shoot faster upside down and blindfolded better than I can, and I bet he can shoot faster and better than Timberwolf. That still doesn't mean speedloaders are inherently as efficient as moon clips.

You will find as you spend time on here that there are lots of people who know lots of stuff. You should be really sure of yourself before you call BS on someone.

I call BS!!!!! [bs2] [wink][laugh]
 
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I admit I am without any first hand experience on this, but I watch many videos of revolver and pistol comp. I have yet to see anybody load faster with speedloaders than moon clips. I actually don't recall many guys using speedloaders at all. I don't see why you would put yourself at an obvious disadvantage. Just thinking about the steps necessary to use either makes it an obvious choice. If all you have is a revolver than necessitates speedloaders, than I can see the point. But if you want to load as fast as possible moon clips are hard to beat.

But like I said, I only get this from watching others, that are far better than I will ever be, shoot for time. If you like one over the other, it's personal preference. But you can't deny the inherent simplicity of moon clips.
 
~ Check out this link . . .

Tyrion said:
I read someplace that the new 625s aren't as accurate with stainless as they were with carbon. Any comments?

FS lists the 686 as the 'one' gun they would have if they were only permitted one.

Anyone with experience with both care to comment?
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Tyrion ~ ​
I think you’ll find the info at the link below on the 625-8 45 ACP most interesting, check it out when you get a chance:​

 
speedloads might seems as fast as moonclips when it take forever for you to reload. But when you get up to speed, its all about economy of motion, as there is just less you have to do with clips
 
Some shoot speedloader round guns because they are scored in a different category - just a some shoot glocks, some 1911's - different strokes for different folks.

I personally love my 625, and it certainly is far more accurate than I am. I have only ever owned one gun that I could outshoot. It was an original 1892 Winchester in 32 WCF. There was something so wrong with the barrel (shot out...) that it wouldnt shoot straight - couldn't hit paper at 7-10 yds! (or at least I couldn't get keep it on paper benched!)
 
OK OK, 686 great gun no question, but speedloaders suck compared to moon clips.
Speedloaders force the average shooter to switch hands when reloading only to hold a hot cylinder from rotating.
With moon clips the gun never has to leave your hand. Throw it in, close the cylinder & go.
It's sooooo much easyer to retrieve your brass.
The .45 ACP is accurate in any gun. Especially 625.
You can always have your 686 cylinder machined for moon clips for around 100$.
They make 6 & 7 shot moon clips for 686+.
Chamfer the charging holes & you have a comperable set up.
Or just get the 627.
 
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