Smith and wesson revolver help

[nstassel]

This revolver has been drilled into by a criminal. In my experience a j frame will have its serial number on the frame under these grips. Does anyone have an idea what they were trying to remove from the side plate here? I don't have the gun just pictures.

 

[OnTheRoad]

The 360 has its serial number there.

I believe the serial number is repeated inside the frame above the hinge if you swing the cylinder out.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

Open the crane and look for a S/N. Jack.

 

[one-eyed Jack]

"Whoever shall deface"...........OP goin ta jail. Jack.

 

[nstassel]

does anyone have a 360 who can confirm there's an anywhere else like under the grips?

 

[OnTheRoad]

Looks like it...tough to tell.

 

[enbloc]

Internal Serial Number?

 

[enbloc]

https://forensicresources.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/SerialNumberRestoration4-14.pdf

8. In the settlement agreement of a law suite against several firearm manufacturers, Smith & Wesson (in 2000) agreed to put a 2nd hidden serial number on its firearms. The 1911 pistol reportedly now has a hidden serial number under the right grip and a micro serial number on the right side. Other steel S&W pistols reportedly have a hidden serial number under the left grip and a micro serial number on the left side. According to Gene Rivera NFEA student, it is necessary to use magnification to see the micro serial numbers.

 

[FPrice]

does anyone have a 360 who can confirm there's an anywhere else like under the grips?

Don't the grips come off?

 

[AHM]

I'm too lazy to look up the whole statute that was excerpted above.

Q: Is it illegal to have a gun with any serial number defaced,
or is it only illegal to have a gun with all serial numbers defaced?

In this specific case,
is it a wallhack to mill out the damage
and re-engrave the missing number?

 

[TrashcanDan]

Should also be another # under the grips, down where the strain screw would be

 

[nstassel]

Internal Serial Number?

This was exactly what I was thinking-also I assumed it was under the grips too.




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[nstassel]

I'm too lazy to look up the whole statute that was excerpted above.

Q: Is it illegal to have a gun with any serial number defaced,
or is it only illegal to have a gun with all serial numbers defaced?

In this specific case,
is it a wallhack to mill out the damage
and re-engrave the missing number?

I am assuming that if there is a serial number else where on the gun I can win that charge.

 

[nstassel]

Don't the grips come off?

I don't have the gun.

 

[nstassel]

https://forensicresources.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/SerialNumberRestoration4-14.pdf

They tried everything to raise a number but couldn't.

 

[enbloc]

I don't have the gun.

Can you request a photo of the crane numbers from PD or DA?

 

[enbloc]

They tried everything to raise a number but couldn't.

They ought to know about the crane numbers...right?

My guess is those were obliterated too...

...unless they stopped looking any further than the drill marks.

 

[nstassel]

Can you request a photo of the crane numbers from PD or DA?

I'll go and take a look at it if need be but I could ask for pics. I bet there are numbers under the grip which would be hilarious considering the efforts they went to to raise the number.

 

[enbloc]

"When all you have is a hammer... everything looks like a nail."

 

[enbloc]

which would be hilarious considering the efforts they went to to raise the number.

Someone needs to validate their paycheck. And I'll bet they don't come across "artwork" like that too often...

 

[enbloc]

If no one can come up with the answer of whether or not there is a S/N under the grip, PM me. I own one but is not at my current location.
I'll pull the grip and let you know tomorrow...

~Enbloc

 

[nstassel]

If no one can come up with the answer of whether or not there is a S/N under the grip, PM me. I own one but is not at my current location.
I'll pull the grip and let you know tomorrow...

~Enbloc

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Thanks I don't need to know until Feb. 13.

 

[enbloc]

Additional info about this particular style of firearm:

I suspect it is a S&W 360J. Which Carl at Four Seasons in Woburn sold for a short while in 2016, and at a decent price (for the time)

Here's why...

Gun Review: Smith & Wesson 360J Japanese Service Revolver - The Truth About Guns

The 360J’s markings are of some interest and worth briefly explaining since when it hit the US market in 2008 these were unlike any other scandium frame. Of course under the cylinder yoke you’ll find its model designation 360J, and serial number, making these easy to identify. The serial number replaces the S&W logo under the cylinder latch, as the usual location, on the grip frame, would be covered up by the Japanese grip.

The "full-fingered" grip does indeed cover the butt of the frame where the traditional location of J-frame serial numbers were located. Because the numbers were obliterated below the cylinder-release lever this would indicate a 360-J model.

~Enbloc

 

[enbloc]

NES Thread: S&W model 360J

 

[BTSDOG]

What if any, is the story behind this drilled to shit revolver ???

 

[nstassel]

What if any, is the story behind this drilled to shit revolver ???

Client charged with unlawful possession and obliterated sn.

 

[BTSDOG]

PM inbound.........

 

[DarrenL]

You will have a terrible time at the friends of revolver match using that thing.

 

[nstassel]

You will have a terrible time at the friends of revolver match using that thing.

only five shots anyways

 

[nstassel]

PM inbound.........

for those keeping score it has another sn under the crane and some other numbers and scan code under the grips.