States recognizing MA LTC

[DemonChronicles]

I use an app on my iPhone to keep track of permits and expiration. There was an update recently to it and I noticed the states recognizing a MA LTC seems to have increased a bit.

I thought it was 18 states, but it now says 21 states:

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Massachusetts
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont

The app I use is simply called CCW. Anyone else using another similar app and can confirm this?

Just curious, not a debate on states that don't need a permit, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I just noticed it this morning as I am taking the Utah NR course tonight and was curious how many more states I'd be "legal" in.

 

[MaynardDad]

Your list has Montana twice. You'd have to decide whether to count constitutional-carry states, like Vermont.

 

[DemonChronicles]

Like I said, not a debate whether some states are of that status, I realize there are more than a few on that list.

The software doesn't differentiate those states, it's simply a "Here are the states you are legal in" type of thing.

List edited..

 

[mikem317]

According to hanguncarry.us: AK, AL, AR, AZ, IA, ID, IN, KS, KY, MI, MO, MS, MT, NC, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT

http://handgunlaw.us/states/USStatesThatHonorMyPermit.pdf

 

[DemonChronicles]

According to hanguncarry.us: AK, AL, AR, AZ, IA, ID, IN, KS, KY, MI, MO, MS, MT, NC, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT

http://handgunlaw.us/states/USStatesThatHonorMyPermit.pdf

Which concurs with the list I posted (Mass is in my list).

I just checked U.S. Carry as well and it also concurs with the list posted.

Thanks!

 

[DSM_1]

Thanks for the info.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Comm2A also posts this information with links to the underlying law/regulation.

 

[jasons]

Just out of curiosity, why take the special Utah class when you can just do a Florida non-res via mail (no special class required) and be covered in pretty much all of the same states?

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Just out of curiosity, why take the special Utah class when you can just do a Florida non-res via mail (no special class required) and be covered in pretty much all of the same states?

Two reasons: There are couple of states (like Minnesota, I think) that are covered by Utah that are not covered by Florida. It really comes down to individual need. Also, the firearms training industry in MA (of which I'm admittedly a part) has done a very good job of marketing the value of the Utah license. With the Florida license, there's no additional training, so there's nothing to market. It's a sort of buyer beware.

 

[jasons]

Two reasons: There are couple of states (like Minnesota, I think) that are covered by Utah that are not covered by Florida. It really comes down to individual need. Also, the firearms training industry in MA (of which I'm admittedly a part) has done a very good job of marketing the value of the Utah license. With the Florida license, there's no additional training, so there's nothing to market. It's a sort of buyer beware.

Ahh, marketing.

With MA res, NH non-res, and FL non-res you get: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wyoming

With MA res, NH non-res, and UT non-res you get: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming


If I'm reading that right, with FL instead of UT you gain Florida and New Mexico but lose Minnesota, Washington, and Wisconsin. I guess if you any spend time in Minnesota, Washington or Wisconsin the UT non-res is a good deal.

 

[DW357]

Ahh, marketing.

With MA res, NH non-res, and FL non-res you get: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wyoming

With MA res, NH non-res, and UT non-res you get: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming


If I'm reading that right, with FL instead of UT you gain Florida and New Mexico but lose Minnesota, Washington, and Wisconsin. I guess if you any spend time in Minnesota, Washington or Wisconsin the UT non-res is a good deal.

Although according to the Florida Department of Agriculture website:

February 4, 2013: Effective this date, PENNSYLVANIA will no longer honor a Florida concealed weapon license if the license holder is not a RESIDENT of the state of Florida.

http://www.freshfromflorida.com/Div...on-License/States-Recognizing-Florida-License

So you'd gain PA with the Utah license if this is correct.

 

[jasons]

Although according to the Florida Department of Agriculture website:

February 4, 2013: Effective this date, PENNSYLVANIA will no longer honor a Florida concealed weapon license if the license holder is not a RESIDENT of the state of Florida.

http://www.freshfromflorida.com/Div...on-License/States-Recognizing-Florida-License

So you'd gain PA with the Utah license if this is correct.

You get PA with a NH non-res, which I assume most of us have anyway.

 

[DW357]

You get PA with a NH non-res, which I assume most of us have anyway.

Oh I thought that only applied to NH residents not non resident NH licenses?

 

[jasons]

Oh I thought that only applied to NH residents not non resident NH licenses?

Not according to this: http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html. I guess they could be wrong though.

 

[DW357]

According to the NH State Police website:

Reciprocity:

The State of New Hampshire has reciprocity agreements with the following states:
​

Alabama	Michigan
Alaska	Missouri
Arizona *	Mississippi
Arkansas	North Carolina
Colorado	North Dakota
Florida	Oklahoma
Georgia	Pennsylvania
Idaho	Tennessee
Indiana	Utah
Iowa	West Virginia *
Kentucky	Wyoming
Louisiana

* License holders must be 21 years of age or older.​

PLEASE NOTE: The State of New Hampshire will only recognize resident concealed handgun licenses from these states. Concealed handgun licenses issued by the State of New Hampshire to out-of-state residents are ONLY valid within the State of New Hampshire or within a state other than the licensee’s home state that reciprocally recognizes New Hampshire nonresident concealed carry licenses.


I don't know if I'm reading this correctly.​

 

[jasons]

I don't see anything in there about it being for NH residents only: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/Signed NH Agreement.pdf

It just says:

The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania will recognize valid New Hampshire permits to carry concealed firearms by valid permit holders while said permit holders are present in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

I would think a NH non-res would still be considered a valid New Hampshire permit.

 

[inerlogic]

ok... how do these states deal with restricted MA LTCs?

 

[TWtommers]

ok... how do these states deal with restricted MA LTCs?

Restriction? What's a restriction. I don't recall any application for a non resident asking about any restrictions on my MA license. As a result, it shouldn't be an issue with those states. I can speak for NH, ME, PA, and FL in that regard. At least as of about 3 years ago.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Ahh, marketing.

With MA res, NH non-res, and FL non-res you get: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wyoming

With MA res, NH non-res, and UT non-res you get: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming


If I'm reading that right, with FL instead of UT you gain Florida and New Mexico but lose Minnesota, Washington, and Wisconsin. I guess if you any spend time in Minnesota, Washington or Wisconsin the UT non-res is a good deal.

I have FL, but not UT. All UT buys me is Minnesota, grew up there, haven't really ever been back. On the other hand, I do have reasons to go to New Mexico and Washington (but I have the WA license).

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ok... how do these states deal with restricted MA LTCs?

unknown.

 

[jasons]

I have FL, but not UT. All UT buys me is Minnesota, grew up there, haven't really ever been back. On the other hand, I do have reasons to go to New Mexico and Washington (but I have the WA license).

Yeah, I've been to Florida and New Mexico a bunch of times, but never Minnesota, Washington, or Wisconsin. I guess it just depends on where you happen to do business.

In any case, the FL non-res is a good one to get and it's pretty easy. The only PITA is the fingerprint card, but it's really not that big of a deal. You can request a packet with all the forms and everything you need on their website here: https://licensing.freshfromflorida.com/forms/FormsRequest790.aspx

 

[inerlogic]

Restriction? What's a restriction. I don't recall any application for a non resident asking about any restrictions on my MA license.

my question was in regards to states that let MA people carry on MA LTCs in their state.... Reciprocity.... Not non-res licenses....

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[DemonChronicles]

my question was in regards to states that let MA people carry on MA LTCs in their state.... Reciprocity.... Not non-res licenses....

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Good question.

Since a restricted MA LTC prevents you from legally carrying here, would you be legally able to carry in any reciprocal state?




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[ProGun]

Good question.

Since a restricted MA LTC prevents you from legally carrying here, would you be legally able to carry in any reciprocal state?




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Not sure about other states, but I understand Michigan will only honor an unrestricted MA LTC. I can't cite where I saw this, but recall someone researching it for that state.