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Stoeger Condor Longfowler 12 gauge O/U
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I considered the stoeger compition model when they came out.....after handling it and then trying a members at the club. I was not thrilled. I'm glad I just took a 4 month break from any extra spending and saved up for a used 1100 trap. Then when I really got the bug I saved even harder and purchased a Browning ultra xt. These entry level Turkish and Russian made o/u are IMHO not worth it for any extended use.
You can also find some great prices on the Miroku made shotguns which are essentially Browning citori. Charles daly shotguns by miroku where also well made and at one time cheap....you can still find a good deal on them.
You can also find some great prices on the Miroku made shotguns which are essentially Browning citori. Charles daly shotguns by miroku where also well made and at one time cheap....you can still find a good deal on them.
I've never shot a Stoeger, but one of the guys I shoot with had recently purchased one, I'm not sure of the model. The first one literally fell apart, during shooting. It was replaced, and he had the same outcome, damage to the hand guard. I'm sure there are plenty of people who've had good results, but the internet is filled with bad reviews, some justified, some hearsay.
The Stoger you mention is actually a waterfowl gun, are you planning on using it for hunting ? Are you looking for an all around gun to shoot clay pigeons, or are you looking for an actual trap gun ? Trap guns are designed to hit rising targets and their barrel geometry is designed to accommodate this activity. If you are not interested in trap shooting, it would wise to look at shotguns that can be used in all of the clay games ( Skeet, Sporting Clays, Trap ). These guns tend to shoot flatter, and their patterns are closer to 50 / 50 .
You may be better suited to buy a higher quality used gun, than a new gun of lesser quality. I purchased a used Beretta 390 ST, manufactured in 1992, for $465. Its a classic autoloader. A friend recently purchased a used Beretta A303, the predecessor to the Beretta 390. The gun was immaculate and manufactured in 1991. He picked it up for $475. Both of these shotguns are in pristine condition, and probably sat in somebody's safe for quite a few years.
If you are looking for an over / under the best value for the money, in my opinion, is Lanber. I have 2097 LUX with 30 inch barrels and 5 extended chokes tubes. Recently Cabelas has been carrying the Lanbers, but you can also get them from CDNN . http://www.cdnninvestments.com/
You've probably also noticed some differences in the various over / under models. Hunting models are usually weighted in the stock, and tend to weigh less. This comes in handy if you are carrying it in the field. Sporting Models tend to have longer barrels, and
The Stoger you mention is actually a waterfowl gun, are you planning on using it for hunting ? Are you looking for an all around gun to shoot clay pigeons, or are you looking for an actual trap gun ? Trap guns are designed to hit rising targets and their barrel geometry is designed to accommodate this activity. If you are not interested in trap shooting, it would wise to look at shotguns that can be used in all of the clay games ( Skeet, Sporting Clays, Trap ). These guns tend to shoot flatter, and their patterns are closer to 50 / 50 .
You may be better suited to buy a higher quality used gun, than a new gun of lesser quality. I purchased a used Beretta 390 ST, manufactured in 1992, for $465. Its a classic autoloader. A friend recently purchased a used Beretta A303, the predecessor to the Beretta 390. The gun was immaculate and manufactured in 1991. He picked it up for $475. Both of these shotguns are in pristine condition, and probably sat in somebody's safe for quite a few years.
If you are looking for an over / under the best value for the money, in my opinion, is Lanber. I have 2097 LUX with 30 inch barrels and 5 extended chokes tubes. Recently Cabelas has been carrying the Lanbers, but you can also get them from CDNN . http://www.cdnninvestments.com/
You've probably also noticed some differences in the various over / under models. Hunting models are usually weighted in the stock, and tend to weigh less. This comes in handy if you are carrying it in the field. Sporting Models tend to have longer barrels, and
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Thanks for that info. I actually went to see a couple of over/unders today and that Stoeger seemed kinda clunky and not as well made as even the Stevens 512 next to it. I have a Mossie pump for ducks so if I do get something, I'd like it to be for trap/clays etc. I will check out the Lanber and some of the other used stuff. ![[cheers]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/018.gif "Cheers [cheers]")
How about Baikal?
How about Baikal?
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Get an auto, with interchangeable chokes.
IMO, its not until one target out of 100 makes a real difference to you that you "need" a specialized shottie on the Trap field.
Just my .02, as you want to shoot Trap and don't want to go broke on a gun.
IMO, its not until one target out of 100 makes a real difference to you that you "need" a specialized shottie on the Trap field.
Just my .02, as you want to shoot Trap and don't want to go broke on a gun.
I beat the shit out of my stoeger uplander, and it's still ticking after 3? years. YMMV.
ETA: I suddenly got the urge to qualify this statement![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
The terrible things I've done to my Uplander include, but are not limited to:
-Cutting the barrels down
-hollowing the stock out
-removing the auto-safety
-firing 3" magnum slugs out of both barrels. at once. several times.
-this gun has lived, uncased, in the trunk of my car. with all sorts of other crap (tools, dirt, etc)
-been kept in a hard case that one or both of my cats had peed in. (oops!)
-dropped, kicked, thrown, etc.
And it still works 100%. I have yet to experience a failure of any kind.
ETA2: For a gun I spent ~300 on, it's been well worth it. IMO, Stoegers are a great value. They aint the cheapest, and they aint the best, but for short money, they're not bad.
ETA: I suddenly got the urge to qualify this statement
The terrible things I've done to my Uplander include, but are not limited to:
-Cutting the barrels down
-hollowing the stock out
-removing the auto-safety
-firing 3" magnum slugs out of both barrels. at once. several times.
-this gun has lived, uncased, in the trunk of my car. with all sorts of other crap (tools, dirt, etc)
-been kept in a hard case that one or both of my cats had peed in. (oops!)
-dropped, kicked, thrown, etc.
And it still works 100%. I have yet to experience a failure of any kind.
ETA2: For a gun I spent ~300 on, it's been well worth it. IMO, Stoegers are a great value. They aint the cheapest, and they aint the best, but for short money, they're not bad.
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