Recently the legislators in Kansas passed a law allowing the ownership of firearms suppressors by qualified civilians. Its refreshing to actually see legislators voting pro gun once in a while. Now, a lot of gun owners here in Massachusetts complain to me that they wish they could own suppressors here in Massachusetts. Well, maybe this will be motivation for all of you to try to change the law here as well. For those who are not familiar with suppressors or those who think they are merely an assassin’s tool, please read on. Firstly, sound suppressors are not "silencers" and they don’t "silence" a firearm as portrayed in Hollywood movies. Suppressors, like car mufflers, merely reduce the decibel level of gunfire to a more palatable level, preventing hearing damage to the shooter. In many countries in Europe, the use of suppressors is actually mandatory for all hunters, similar to our laws governing the use of mufflers on cars, boats, motorcycles and lawnmowers, in order to reduce noise pollution. Secondly, the reason for Massachusetts laws preventing ownership of sound suppressors by the civilian population, contrary to popular belief, was not because of gangsters. During the Great depression of the 1930's Massachusetts legislature decided to ban suppressors to reduce poaching of farm animals by individuals who could not afford to buy food for their families. Finally, I have noticed that some conservative gun owners, especially hunters, try to separate themselves from us the "gun nuts," thinking that class III enthusiasts give their "legitimate" gun ownership a bad name. We'll over the years being in the Class III business, I have noticed that people who hate guns because they don't understand or fear them are much more prone to change their mind if they experience shooting a suppressed weapon, rather than a regular firearm, since it doesn’t make as much noise and is much more "pleasant" to shoot for the first time. Anyway, thought I'd pit this up for discussion. If anyone cares to rebut, feel free.
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Suppressors legal in Kansas, Why not Massachusetts
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Agreed, I really could care less about having to renew a permit every 5 years, whats the big deal...BUT WHY CAN'T I OWN A FRICKEN SUPRESSOR! Sure I have em up under my corporate name in Maine, but I wanna take em home! Seriously I can own Machineguns and grenade launchers here but not a supressor...All I wanna do is shoot quietly...
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If I move to NH the first thing I'm buying is NOT going to be some silly gun that we normally can't get in MA... big deal... I'm buying suppressors, and at least 2 or 3 of the things.
IMO cans shouldn't even be NFA devices, frankly, but even given the current crappy federal laws I'd still plunk down the $200 tax and wait... cans are just plain awesome.
-Mike
IMO cans shouldn't even be NFA devices, frankly, but even given the current crappy federal laws I'd still plunk down the $200 tax and wait... cans are just plain awesome.
-Mike
one-eyed Jack
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In this hell hole of a state (Mass), the easiest way is to buy the 07 FFL and SOT and make and register your own suppressors. Or move. Jack.
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The only requirement to have the rights of a US citizen, is to be a US citizen. Anything else, is un-Constitutional.
We should be able to own them and we shouldn't have to pay an additional $200 for a stupid federal tax either. They are simply for hearing protection. Think about the noise pollution that they'd cut down on.
jim/boston
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Made circa 1912; in .22 cal
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Made circa 1912; in .22 cal
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Heh, laws.
The same people who tell you a motorcycle can't leave the factory with pipes louder than a fart don't let you put a muffler on your guns.
In a parallel universe, there are people sawing off state mandated silencers to make their guns louder and dangerous rebels who try to make their bikes as quiet as possible so they don't have to wear ear plugs.
And Freedom weeps in both places.
The same people who tell you a motorcycle can't leave the factory with pipes louder than a fart don't let you put a muffler on your guns.
In a parallel universe, there are people sawing off state mandated silencers to make their guns louder and dangerous rebels who try to make their bikes as quiet as possible so they don't have to wear ear plugs.
And Freedom weeps in both places.
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one-eyed Jack
Manufacturer
Once you start shooting suppressed, you'l never go back to women! Jack.
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When your rights and liberty are doled out to you in the form of "permission"
from some elitist group of a**h***s who put their pants on the same way you do, you have no problem with it? If thats the case, will you have no problem handing your guns over when they come to take them away?
BTW, Jim Nice Maxim CAN!! I especially like how the can is off-set from the center axis to allow for the use of iron sights. I have been playing around with a similar design but variances in indexing from one barrel to another makes it difficult to switch the can between various weapon platforms. Interesting how this design has been around for 100 years but only becoming popular now.
pdm
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I'd rather a mandatory gun safety class in school. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, gun grabbers!
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If suppressors were legal in Mass, the cops/neighbors might not hear the shots when you and your unarmed family are murdered in your home by illegally armed thugs looking for loose change in your couch cushions to support their meth habit.
seanc
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but but but but but.. If Silencers were just available anywhere unrestricted.. How would the the neighbors near ranges then complain about the noise?? I tell you this just can not be allowed to happen!!
I'm working on getting some new cans too....
FOR THE GUNS!
NOT THOSE GUNS, THE PISTOLS!!
Geesh, what's wrong with you guys.
My wife usually likes it when my mind is in the gutter, so if you want that to change got to take it up with her.
one-eyed Jack
Manufacturer
When the cops hear the shots, it's over anyway.You and your family should not be unarmed anyway. Plus, if you take care of the situation with a good suppressor, you can get out the shovel and finish the job yourself. (after going thru the BG's pockets for loose change). Jack.
I think this is an important topic and should keep going. Some states in order to acquire a suppressor you need written permission from your local authorities. Usually they just sign off on it. Would have no issue with that here if we could get to that point. Seen some guys shooting subsonic 308s with a can and no need for hearing protection! Amazing.
How would we go about pushing this issue? Are there enough people here in MA to get together to make a push?
How would we go about pushing this issue? Are there enough people here in MA to get together to make a push?
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