Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread

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...meanwhile - and certainly if they jettison Roe - the Donks WILL pack the court.

Let's say they pack the court. Big deal. It will be decades before another abortion case gets to scotus. As far as gun cases who cares. Let's jump on the defund the police bandwagon today and defund local/state/fbi the whole damn thing. Gonna be tough taking someone's gun when all you can do is throw glitter at someone.
 

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Let's say they pack the court. Big deal. It will be decades before another abortion case gets to scotus. As far as gun cases who cares. Let's jump on the defund the police bandwagon today and defund local/state/fbi the whole damn thing. Gonna be tough taking someone's gun when all you can do is throw glitter at someone.
In either instance, I wouldn't bet on a dearth of cases, especially if the Donks do (or look like they will) pack the court.
 
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I know it's been brought up earlier but Alito's concurring opinion on the case slaps the shit out of the dissenting libs and blows away all the idiotic lib reasoning for restrictive gun control/laws. He really laid the law down for the 2nd Amendment critics and told them they have no legal standing.
 

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In either instance, I wouldn't bet on a dearth of cases, especially if the Donks do (or look like they will) pack the court.

Okay but now there is precedent. It will take very special judge shopping to find judges that thumb their noses at scotus now. Over 200+ year of history scotus has had to overturn bad decisions made especially those in the aftermath of the civil war. Nothing new. Cruikshank, Plessey, Dredd Scott and today Roe.

Let's be honest. The left wants to destroy the country in order to implement, I don't know what, direct democracy type of government? They'll like that until they are voted out of power and their ideas are shot down by the people, then they will be crying for a constitution. They lack the ability to win at the ballot box and for decades they have pinned all of their hopes on wins in the courts.

Let's be honest here, Roe is another example of a legal fiction just like qualified immunity.
 

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Charlie Faker was asked on the news today what the ramifications are of the Bruen case. His reply, " Nothing has changed or is going to change in the near future!"
Charlie can talk all he wants, until the lawsuits start to roll in, in the current future, and then his near future has arrived.
 
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I know it's been brought up earlier but Alito's concurring opinion on the case slaps the shit out of the dissenting libs and blows away all the idiotic lib reasoning for restrictive gun control/laws. He really laid the law down for the 2nd Amendment critics and told them they have no legal standing.
To be fair, the left offered nothing of substance, so his takedown was mere childs play. The entire dissent was some faggot moonbat clerk spilling out their feels. It's as if they just gave up.
 

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Another gem from the State of New York trying to defend their law - they cite a law from the 1200's as basis for history of limiting carrying of arms:

"It provided that, with some exceptions, Englishmen could not “come before the King’s Justices, or other of the King’s Min- isters doing their office, with force and arms, nor bring no force in affray of the peace, nor to go nor ride armed by night nor by day, in Fairs, Markets, nor in the presence of the Justices or other Ministers, nor in no part elsewhere, upon pain to forfeit their Armour to the King, and their Bodies to Prison at the King’s pleasure.” 2 Edw. 3 c. 3 (1328).

Respondents argue that the prohibition on “rid[ing]” or “go[ing] . . . armed” was a sweeping restriction on public carry of self-defense weapons that would ultimately be adopted in Colonial America and justify onerous public- carry regulations. Notwithstanding the ink the parties spill over this provision, the Statute of Northampton—at least as it was understood during the Middle Ages—has little bearing on the Second Amendment adopted in 1791. The Statute of Northampton was enacted nearly 20 years before the Black Death, more than 200 years before the birth of Shakespeare, more than 350 years before the Salem Witch Trials, more than 450 years before the ratification of the Constitution, and nearly 550 years before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment."

Ha!
 

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Okay but now there is precedent. It will take very special judge shopping to find judges that thumb their noses at scotus now. Over 200+ year of history scotus has had to overturn bad decisions made especially those in the aftermath of the civil war. Nothing new. Cruikshank, Plessey, Dredd Scott and today Roe.

Let's be honest. The left wants to destroy the country in order to implement, I don't know what, direct democracy type of government? They'll like that until they are voted out of power and their ideas are shot down by the people, then they will be crying for a constitution. They lack the ability to win at the ballot box and for decades they have pinned all of their hopes on wins in the courts.

Let's be honest here, Roe is another example of a legal fiction just like qualified immunity.
What they're after (and "they" isn't just what we'd ordinarily call The Left):
A China-style totalitarian bureaucracy for EVERYONE worldwide. Especially the US, that happens to have (had?) a freedom tradition and culture.
 
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Botox Nasty Nancy is on and she seems confused about the Bill of Rights. She says the Court upheld the 2nd Amendment yesterday but denied rights to woman today.
🤬 No right to an abortion Nancy and she's whining about Trump and Cocaine Mitch. She's calling the Supreme Court the Trumpian Court. YES![rockon]
 

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What they're after (and "they" isn't just what we'd ordinarily call The Left):
A China-style totalitarian bureaucracy for EVERYONE worldwide. Especially the US, that happens to have (had?) a freedom tradition and culture.

That's all fine and dandy but the citizens of the US outgun the rest of the worlds armies combined. Good luck with that.
 

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Let's be honest. The left wants to destroy the country in order to implement, I don't know what, direct democracy type of government?
Let's say they pack the court. Big deal. It will be decades before another abortion case gets to scotus. As far as gun cases who cares. Let's jump on the defund the police bandwagon today and defund local/state/fbi the whole damn thing. Gonna be tough taking someone's gun when all you can do is throw glitter at someone.
Nope, they want communism, pure and simple: the “rulers” and “the ruled.”
 
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The Libs are the party elite who believe they are the ruling class and we are serfs. Where do they get this opinion? Elitist, effeminate college professors who've never worked a day in their lives, like Barry and Dementia Joe, and brainwash students into hating us because we hurt their feelings. They don't understand nobody gives a f*** about their feelings and if they can't control them they need to grow up or shut up.
 

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That's all fine and dandy but the citizens of the US outgun the rest of the worlds armies combined. Good luck with that.
...which is why disarming us is so important to them.

Of course, if the People are unwilling to use those arms - which to date has been the case - it's academic anyway.
 
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"Most of the crowd at SCOTUS is celebrating the decision....they are blowing bubbles lol. No sign of any moonbat bulldog dykes yet."

I've seen a bunch of DB's with tape over their mouths saying, "I'm a 2nd class citizen" and DB's with Tshirts saying "I'm a Vagina Voter". I don't think these DB's would ever have the need for an abortion. Oops, all the Dem Congress critters are out walking around to stir up the crowd. They're good little apparatchiks. From what I understand MS didn't BAN abortion, just after 15 weeks. Am I correct?
 

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Footnote 9 of the decision, citations omitted, highlights mine:
To be clear, nothing in our analysis should be interpreted to suggest the unconstitutionality of the 43 States’ “shall-issue” licensing regimes, under which “a general desire for self-defense is sufficient to obtain a [permit].” Because these licensing regimes do not require applicants to show an atypical need for armed self-defense, they do not necessarily prevent “law-abiding, responsible citizens” from exercising their Second Amendment right to public carry. Rather, it appears that these shall-issue regimes, which often require applicants to undergo a background check or pass a firearms safety course, are designed to ensure only that those bearing arms in the jurisdiction are, in fact, “law-abiding, responsible citizens". And they likewise appear to contain only “narrow, objective, and definite standards” guiding licensing officials, rather than requiring the “appraisal of facts, the exercise of judgment, and the formation of an opinion" -- features that typify proper-cause standards like New York’s. That said, because any permitting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitutional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry.
Thomas must have been writing this for years, considering the number of conditions he considered. Now, getting the lower courts to actually apply the ruling may be a bigger issue.

Exactly. Thus, the next battleground as to what constitutes excessive wait times or fees.
 

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Not just a several month wait and fees but hopefully this can also address the fact that some states make you appear in person as part of the process.
That can be a massive burden to travel to another state (unarmed) wether it be one state over or across the country.

Agree. Huge PITA and seems like disguised suitability garbage.
 

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You know it is POS like him which will lead this nation to a second civil war !
And the Professors who "educated" him on the evilness of America. Don't these elitist Professors realize they will be the first to disappear if the left wins a Civil War and we become a Communist/Socialist country? Who did Stalin, Mao, Fidel, Ho, etc. go after first when they took power by violent revolution? Morons!
 
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"The entire dissent was some faggot moonbat clerk spilling out their feels. It's as if they just gave up."

Yup, and he let them know their feelings don't matter and they have NO legal standing..
 
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