The Second Amendment is cancelled on account of weather.

[dcmdon]

CT Dealers received a RoboCall yesterday informing them that the nice ladies who do NICS checks would be going home at 12:30 today because of the "snow".

It seems lately that any excuse is good enough.

Don

 

[shipwreck]

I mean if you're in the system, the state doesn't need to be open for you to buy anything. Just saying.

 

[dcmdon]

Not true.

The automated system throws so many false positives as to be largely useless.

 

[RImike]

Doesn't it work by rejecting and if the applicant wasn't rejected that means it was approved.

 

[dcmdon]

Doesn't it work by rejecting and if the applicant wasn't rejected that means it was approved.

I don't remember what the automated phone system says but, if you get rejected, you then need to call in when the DESPP is open and resolve the issue.
If you get a "delay" that isn't resolved in 3 days, then the dealer can complete the transfer.

I can tell you both angles. I have a name that sounds like the name of someone who is apparently a prohibited person (PP), so I can never use the automated system.
When I talk to the nice ladies, it always takes a bit longer than normal, because the PP comes up as flagged and they then need to resolve that I'm not that PP.

I also used to hold an 07 FFL in CT and attempted to transfer for friends well outside of business hours using the automated system. It was always hit or miss.

 

[shipwreck]

Well I know that I've never had had a problem, whether the state was closed or not. In fact I've had one dealer tell me that since I'm dtf by the auto message, I can continue to come in on off hours.

 

[92G]

This is just the beginning.
soon we will have rolling blackouts of NICS....if .gov gets its way then NICS will operate tuesdays 2-3pm

 

[dcmdon]

Well I know that I've never had had a problem, whether the state was closed or not. In fact I've had one dealer tell me that since I'm dtf by the auto message, I can continue to come in on off hours.

DFT?

 

[dcmdon]

This is just the beginning.
soon we will have rolling blackouts of NICS....if .gov gets its way then NICS will operate tuesdays 2-3pm

I need to reread the language of the federal law. Does it say that a "delay" must be resolved in 3 days or the dealer can transfer, or does it say any delay must be resolved in 3 days or the dealer can transfer? It goes to the point of whether a prolonged outage of the NICS system would just impose a 3 day delay on purchases. Which they wouldn't wnat to have happen because those purchases would not get run through the system.

One other thing is the influence of the state licensing authorities.

I believe it is in states like MD where the NICS check can take a couple of days normally, where the wait for submitted NICS checks to come back ran to several months after Sandy Hook. The dealers were legally justified in doing transfers without the NICS checks, but the state licensing folks intimidated most dealers to wait months before delivering guns.

It was infuriating to read about. I used to have a link to an article about this that I'd forward to people who would say "what is the harm in background checks?". But the link is now dead.

Don

 

[dcmdon]

A quick google turned up this.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...it-times-for-handguns-rifles-running-40-days/

"You see, the law is pretty clear that, after seven days, the FFL can release the firearm, even without receiving approved paperwork from the MSP. Yet the state police have made it clear that no one should actually do it, despite their inability to cope with the amount of background check volume."

And here is how it was eventually resolved with a NRA lawsuit. (No the NRA isn't ideal. But it is often effective)

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/26/suit-forces-maryland-to-clarify-gun-transfer-rules/


And another, with more detail:
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...0130608_1_gun-dealers-gun-sales-gun-ownership

Don

 

[browncoat]

The fact that you need a NICS check in the first place is what cancels the 2A. Everything after that is just gravy on a crap sandwich.

 

[Bonesinium]

DFT?

No, he said dtf. Down to.....

 

[Precision Point Firearms]

This is just the beginning.
soon we will have rolling blackouts of NICS....if .gov gets its way then NICS will operate tuesdays 2-3pm

Not that I agree with having nics I think they are accommodating being open till 1am.

 

[browncoat]

Not that I agree with having nics I think they are accommodating being open till 1am.

1 am is 7 pm Hawaii time.

 

[dcmdon]

Not that I agree with having nics I think they are accommodating being open till 1am.

Some states actually do the NICS check using the fed databases. They do this so they can run extra checks using their state databases. This is called a "Full Point of Contact (POC)" state.

CT is one of those states. This means that you work with state people and are constrained to state hours of operation.

MA is a Non POC state. That means they use the straight federal NICS system, with their longer hours.

Here's a map showing POC and non POC states.

Don

 

[je25ff]

Reminds me of this

http://www.guns.com/2013/06/29/roya...-guns-from-town-residents-during-flood-video/