Thinking about selling my Sig P229 and getting a 1911 instead

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Can anyone give me a compelling argument why I shouldn't sell my P229 in favor of a 1911?

Sure, I would like to have both but cash is short so something has to go and the P229 has become a safe queen as of late.
 
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I can't help you...I abhor safe queens, but I do so love my Sigs...

Aw hell, trade it. You can always get another if it doesn't work out and even if it does. In my opinion, you're never really deciding what to buy, you're just deciding what order to buy them in!
 
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Raoul Duke said:
I cant help you...I abhor safe queens, but I do so love my Sigs...

Aw hell, trade it. You can always get another if it doesn't work out and even if it does. In my opinion, you're never really deciding what to buy, you're just deciding what order to buy them in!
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Yep

Its not what I wan't, but when I want it/need it. I wan't a 1911, but I need a rifle.

If you don't enjoy shooting it, might as well get one that you do.
 
If you carried your Sig and it wasn't a safe queen, then I think the argument for keeping it would be very simple: to adapt from a traditional double action semi-automatic to a traditional single action semi-automatic requires learning a new manual of arms and developing proficiency over many repititions of drawing and presenting the 1911 AND swiping the thumb safety. In situations where one is under extreme stress, fine motor skills are the first things to go. Unless you are willing to commit the time to learn the new manual of arms, then it might not be optimal for you to switch. Then too, there is the cost of a new holster and magazine pouches.

However, you either cannot carry CCW or you carry something else, so if you want a 1911 as a fun gun, then why not? I am not sure however, that you will find a 1911 in Massachusetts that will be as intrinsically reliable from a performance standpoint as your Sig. Perhaps a disclaimer of sorts is in order here, lest I get besieged by hundreds of happy 1911 owners ready to assert that "old slabsides has never failed me." I own two 1911's and enjoy them. But, as a general category, the 1911 can manifest a number of problems, fortunately these problems can be fixed by a competent gunsmith. How much do you want to pay to ensure that your 1911 is exactly right?

My guess is that you have caught 1911 fever (at least a small dose) and will eventually wind up with John M. Browning's most enduring legacy: the 1911 semi-automatic pistol.

Mark L.
 
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I like the S&W 1911DK

If it wasn't for carry, I'd take a 1911 over the P229 any day.

I have 3 1911's and no Sigs (though I would like one at some point)
 
mark056 said:
I am not sure however, that you will find a 1911 in Massachusetts that will be as intrinsically reliable from a performance standpoint as your Sig. Perhaps a disclaimer of sorts is in order here, lest I get besieged by hundreds of happy 1911 owners ready to assert that "old slabsides has never failed me." I own two 1911's and enjoy them. But, as a general category, the 1911 can manifest a number of problems, fortunately these problems can be fixed by a competent gunsmith. How much do you want to pay to ensure that your 1911 is exactly right?
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Many 1911 problems are caused by INcompetent gunsmithing. I don't think a modern 1911 is any less reliable than other pistols, people are just more likely to mess with them.
 
I've never owned a Sig but I've shot a few of them. I don't like the feel of them, and I think the barrel is set too high (excluding the 232 of course, those are nice). So I never got comfortable with them.

The 1911 on the other hand, is the first gun I ever carried. I've practiced a lot with them over the years. I love the function of it, inside and out.

It is true that reliability can be compromised if it's been tinkered with by the wrong person, or not checked over meticulously before leaving the factory. (that all depends on what brand you buy).

Lots for folks swear by their S&W 1911's, and I've heard they're reliable, but I don't trust the exposed extractor. It wasn't designed that way, but some will say it's more reliable with that particular change.

my 2 cents
 
One compelling reason is that ammo costs favor the P229 assuming it's not a .357 Sig.

My 1911 (an S&W scandium commander) has been completely reliable and it's great to shoot but I like my 229 a lot also.
 
Big_Red said:
Can anyone give me a compelling argument why I shouldn't sell my P229 in favor of a 1911?
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Yes.

Are you sure you don't want the Sig any more? 'Cause I've sold guns, thinking that I didn't want them any more, only to get a BAD case of seller's remorse. It took me TEN YEARS to convince my best friend to sell me back my Model 19 - and I'd seriously thought I didn't want it any more. I do, however, have it back again, and the next owner will be my heir.

Make DAMN sure that there's NO POSSIBILITY that you will want this very same gun ever again in the future... Either that, or just start saving your pennies.



Note: I do not own any Sigs... and I do own two 1911s. And no, I don't want to sell either of them, either.
 
dwarven1 said:
Yes.

Are you sure you don't want the Sig any more? 'Cause I've sold guns, thinking that I didn't want them any more, only to get a BAD case of seller's remorse. It took me TEN YEARS to convince my best friend to sell me back my Model 19 - and I'd seriously thought I didn't want it any more. I do, however, have it back again, and the next owner will be my heir.

Make DAMN sure that there's NO POSSIBILITY that you will want this very same gun ever again in the future... Either that, or just start saving your pennies.



Note: I do not own any Sigs... and I do own two 1911s. And no, I don't want to sell either of them, either.
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+1 here.

Hell, a friend told me once," we don't sell guns, we just buy more!"

Carl.
 
Both are fine firearms in my opinion. I have a 229 in .40 which is one of my carry guns. Very reliable, accurate and nice to shoot. Don't part with it if you are not sure. Not everyone likes Sigs - I do and have a couple - but why not get a 1911 as well? :)
 
Scrivener said:
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THE DARK SIDE!

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I couldn't have said it better myself. 1911's rule!!! Sigs are decent guns but they just don't compare to a nicely tuned 1911. Once you pull the trigger on the single action trigger of a 1911 nothing will ever compare. Remember the 1911 trigger is the trigger all others are compared to. As for the Sig trigger.... Well, let's just say "not so much."
 
PistolPete said:
I Once you pull the trigger on the single action trigger of a 1911 nothing will ever compare. Remember the 1911 trigger is the trigger all others are compared to. As for the Sig trigger.... Well, let's just say "not so much."
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+1. I really don't understand why so many pistols have crap triggers. How come no one has been able to improve upon JMB's hundred year old design?
 
IMO that's a crappy choice to have to make.

The only way I would dump the P229 is if you don't like it or don't shoot it that often. If you can qualify that, then fine, let it go. (by the safe queen commentary, it might sound like this has already happened.... )

Otherwise, I'd caution against it. Dumping one gun to get another is usually a losing proposition unless the guns your dumping have become "obsolete" to you.

I'm probably a bad person to ask because I own both and generally like both.

-Mike
 
No, the P229 is not my first gun and I don't really want to sell it but that's the only gun I do not shoot hence it became a safe queen. The only way I can get a 1911 is if I come up with $$$ and the only way I can come up with $$$ is to sell another gun. I cannot sell any of my other guns because I either like them too much or carry them regularly.

Like I wrote in my OP, I would like to be able to keep the SIG and get a 1911. Obviously I do not need a new gun I just want one. [smile] I have always wanted a 1911 but they have always been out of reach or something else came along that required my available funds.

At this point I am just toying with the idea. Whether anything comes of it is another matter.

Thanks everyone.
 
Big_Red said:
No, the P229 is not my first gun and I don't really want to sell it but that's the only gun I do not shoot hence it became a safe queen. The only way I can get a 1911 is if I come up with $$$ and the only way I can come up with $$$ is to sell another gun. I cannot sell any of my other guns because I either like them too much or carry them regularly.

Like I wrote in my OP, I would like to be able to keep the SIG and get a 1911. Obviously I do not need a new gun I just want one. [smile] I have always wanted a 1911 but they have always been out of reach or something else came along that required my available funds.

At this point I am just toying with the idea. Whether anything comes of it is another matter.

Thanks everyone.
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I sold an M&P9 and I'm glad I did. I really didn't like it. However, it seems that you do really like the 229 and may well regret it if you sell it.

I say have some patience and save up for the 1911.
 
I've sold a fair number of my guns in the past.

Sometimes it was because I needed the money for non-gun related things (life).

Sometimes it was because I needed the money to fund another gun purchase.

I've liked every gun I've ever purchased. But when I had to sell one, usually the one I liked the least (or one I had the least use for) would go.

Needless to say, I've regretted it each time. And I have every intention of re-purchasing them all back as my income allows.

Come to think of it... at the moment... there isn't one gun in my collection that I'd be willing to sell. Some reasons are sentimental reasons, some are collector-value reasons... but every gun that I have is staying... if I can help it.

Right now... you have a Sig 229 that you don't shoot too often...but that you like, right? You also would like to acquire a 1911... but can't without raising $ by selling a gun that you have. (it sounds like you could also save the $ but that would take a LONG time?)

I guess my only advice is...Since it's a gun you like... before you actually decide to sell the 229... take it to the range one last time... put a couple of magazines through it... THEN decide. If you can easily say "Yup, I can sell this 229"... then sell it. But if you end up saying "Man... I'm not sure if I want to sell this 229"... then I wouldn't sell it. Because the second you sell it... you'll wish you hadn't... and will simply end up buying one again later. You might as well keep the one you have and save yourself the regret.

Good luck deciding! [grin]
 
Big_Red said:
No, the P229 is not my first gun and I don't really want to sell it but that's the only gun I do not shoot hence it became a safe queen. The only way I can get a 1911 is if I come up with $$$ and the only way I can come up with $$$ is to sell another gun.
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Martin, far as I'm concerned you just explained that you have "new gun disease"; a terrible illness where you're willing to sell one of your old guns to get a NEW one. RESIST THIS!!! My prescription (in two parts) is to take your old gun to the range this weekend and put 4 boxes of ammo downrange. This should cure the initial symptoms of thinking your gun is a safe queen.

The next step can be done one of two ways: Either change your payroll deductions so that $50/week or so goes into a special "gun fund", or start emptying your pocket change (and bottle recycling change) into a big jar. When it gets full, roll the coin (do NOT use CoinStar; they charge you 10%!) and take it to the bank. When your gun fund reaches critical mass, go buy your new 1911. Trust me, the anticipation will make it worth it, AND you'll still have your Sig!

Hey, when the Zombocalypse hits, you can't have too many guns. How else are you going to arm your family and friends? [wink]
 
mark056 said:
If you carried your Sig and it wasn't a safe queen, then I think the argument for keeping it would be very simple: to adapt from a traditional double action semi-automatic to a traditional single action semi-automatic requires learning a new manual of arms and developing proficiency over many repititions of drawing and presenting the 1911 AND swiping the thumb safety. In situations where one is under extreme stress, fine motor skills are the first things to go. Unless you are willing to commit the time to learn the new manual of arms, then it might not be optimal for you to switch. Then too, there is the cost of a new holster and magazine pouches.

However, you either cannot carry CCW or you carry something else, so if you want a 1911 as a fun gun, then why not? I am not sure however, that you will find a 1911 in Massachusetts that will be as intrinsically reliable from a performance standpoint as your Sig. Perhaps a disclaimer of sorts is in order here, lest I get besieged by hundreds of happy 1911 owners ready to assert that "old slabsides has never failed me." I own two 1911's and enjoy them. But, as a general category, the 1911 can manifest a number of problems, fortunately these problems can be fixed by a competent gunsmith. How much do you want to pay to ensure that your 1911 is exactly right?

My guess is that you have caught 1911 fever (at least a small dose) and will eventually wind up with John M. Browning's most enduring legacy: the 1911 semi-automatic pistol.

Mark L.
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Damn this guy is good. He says what I am thinking[smile]


My only addition is what caliber is the 229?
 
Can anyone give me a compelling argument why I shouldn't sell my P229 in favor of a 1911?
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I have both and like both. I think you should try to keep your Sig and buy a good quality 1911. But of course, this depends upon your financial situation.
 
Arghhhhh! You guys aren't making this any easier [smile]

I think I will just leave it be for now and as suggested start a 1911 fund. I would like to have a new gun in time for the next NES Pumpkin Shoot. We'll see what happens.
 

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