This is what I have to deal with...

[majspud]

Took the new 1985 P1 and 1910 to the range; and the ranges were flooded after last night's rain. It's been like this for years. At the 50 yard range, you needed boots. At the 25 yard pistol range I was able to walk a crooked line to set up the targets.

45F, overcast, very windy. Distance about 49 feet. It was too far for the little 1910; I got 2 hits from 12 JHP Fiochhi rounds (35gr/900fps/63ft.lbs)..may have been high. Pistol functioned perfectly.

Three magazines of WWB ball (115gr/1225fps/383ft.lbs); was a little right. Pistol functioned flawlessly. I reused the 1910 target and shot another three magazines, compensating a little left and did better. Of 48 rounds, only four bounced off my forehead and two landing on top of my head. My other P1, every case hit me in the face or throat.

Minimal recoil. Anyone suggest a good 9mm carry round?

t

 

[mac1911]

Hold them sideways and catch the empties with your other hand

 

[daekken]

Minimal recoil. Anyone suggest a good 9mm carry round?

t

I use Federal HST 124gr, but I have also used Speer Gold Dots depending on availability.

 

[majspud]

I have 20 rounds left of Liberty Civil Defense

Rated at +P
50gr aluminum frangible bullet
2000fps
450ft/lbs kinetic energy

I think it used 124gr FMJ NATO ball in its day.

t

 

[majspud]

Hold them sideways and catch the empties with your other hand

What, a la gangster style?

t

 

[76Too]

I’ve used Hornady critical defense 115grs since I started carrying. Haven’t had to test them on anyone though...kinda hoping it stays that way.

 

[Frizzle Fry]

Anyone suggest a good 9mm carry round?

Remington Golden Saber / Ultimate Defense BJHP is great for old guns; they make loads better suited to compact pistols, and the shape of the nose feeds in most pistols designed with ball ammo (and only ball ammo) in mind.

 

[majspud]

Nose shape is good thing; although a P1 is hardly compact. Same profile as a M1911.

t

 

[jpm]

I think it used 124gr FMJ NATO ball in its day.

t

You beat me to it, I was just going to tell you this

 

[majspud]

Be a nice slug for a carry round.

Rates 1140fps and 358ft/lbs

t

 

[jpm]

btw if you need any extra mags for that I have a couple of Walther P38 mags that are almost unused.

 

[majspud]

btw if you need any extra mags for that I have a couple of Walther P38 mags that are almost unused.

Yes, thanks. I could use a couple more.

Got myself 150 rounds of NATO to try out. $27.50/tax at WalMart; about .19 each. They also had 500 for $85. See if I like it first. Rates 1140fps and 358ft/lbs

t

 

[majspud]

The Winchester 115s are 1190 and 362. They hit a little harder than the NATO? What’s up with that? NATO has more of a recoil.

t

 

[jpm]

well they are going 50fps faster too

 

[NavelOfficer]

Shoot enough of your specialty rounds to make sure they will digest properly in your pistol.
A friend has a 1964 P1 (aluminum frame, apparently first year when Walher was allowed to manufacture firearms after the war...?) and I was loading for it, with the intent of using a somewhat reduced load so as not to beat up the gun (it isn't his everyday shooter and range gun). His P1 didn't cycle reliably with starting loads, so we ended up loading near maximums to keep the functioning 100%.
FWIW, we did find that the RMR 95g FMJ-RN and Berry's 124g Hybrid HP ran just fine in his P1.

9mm HHP - Berry's Manufacturing

 

[massgun]

Took the new 1985 P1 and 1910 to the range; and the ranges were flooded after last night's rain. It's been like this for years. At the 50 yard range, you needed boots. At the 25 yard pistol range I was able to walk a crooked line to set up the targets.

45F, overcast, very windy. Distance about 49 feet. It was too far for the little 1910; I got 2 hits from 12 JHP Fiochhi rounds (35gr/900fps/63ft.lbs)..may have been high. Pistol functioned perfectly.

Three magazines of WWB ball (115gr/1225fps/383ft.lbs); was a little right. Pistol functioned flawlessly. I reused the 1910 target and shot another three magazines, compensating a little left and did better. Of 48 rounds, only four bounced off my forehead and two landing on top of my head. My other P1, every case hit me in the face or throat.

Minimal recoil. Anyone suggest a good 9mm carry round?

t

I was recently directed to https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm when I started a thread about looking for a lower recoil round for my LCR in .38 Special. While it doesn't give info specifically on recoil, the info (and pics) it does provide should be helpful in picking a round that fits your requirements.

 

[majspud]

I have been using the Liberty ammo. Based on the gel, it does not over-penetrate (they had 4 layers of clothes over the gel). The 50 grain aluminum head also fragments, and the remaining piece retains less than 85% of its original mass.

t

 

[majspud]

Shoot enough of your specialty rounds to make sure they will digest properly in your pistol.
A friend has a 1964 P1 (aluminum frame, apparently first year when Walher was allowed to manufacture firearms after the war...?) and I was loading for it, with the intent of using a somewhat reduced load so as not to beat up the gun (it isn't his everyday shooter and range gun). His P1 didn't cycle reliably with starting loads, so we ended up loading near maximums to keep the functioning 100%.
FWIW, we did find that the RMR 95g FMJ-RN and Berry's 124g Hybrid HP ran just fine in his P1.

9mm HHP - Berry's Manufacturing

My first Walther P1 was 1958

t

 

[NavelOfficer]

It seems as though my friend has his dates wrong. Oh well.
Did you see my initial results with the Berry's Hybrid HP out of a .45 ACP (this is the 185 grain version)? Retained weight 185g.
Can't say they'll do this every time, but this was the first recovered bullet through two water-filled milk jugs

 

[majspud]

Didn’t see this...

...ouch

t

 

[JuergenG]

Took the new 1985 P1 and 1910 to the range;
t

Tim, do you want a genuine P1 leather holster for your pistol? I can pass one through our mutual friend visiting this coming weekend.

 

[majspud]

Juergen that would be a nice accessory. Thank you. I assume you’ve read the other posts on how lucky I am to be alive.

t

 

[JuergenG]

That's a go.
I just read the other posts. Damn, you were lucky! Wishing you a speedy recovery and keep your paws off these nurses.