tribal law at ct indian run casinos ? how is it enforced [ please no scalped jokes; had enough]

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to my knowledge foxwood and mohegan sun have there own legal system and considered sovereign, what is it: can't find anything about it or how it is enforced. i already know: no guns, even if you have a state permit. if they are so sovereign why can't we declare war on them, what are they going to do extradite me from and to the united states [joking]?
 
to my knowledge foxwood and mohegan sun have there own legal system and considered sovereign, what is it: can't find anything about it or how it is enforced. i already know: no guns, even if you have a state permit. if they are so sovereign why can't we declare war on them, what are they going to do extradite me from and to the united states [joking]?

Tribal law is no joke.
When you step onto tribal land your no longer in the united states. The constitution no longer applies your rights are gone. Your subject to tribal law and punishment. State law does not apply on tribal lands, most federal law also does not apply. The treaty the tribe holds specifies what laws may apply between state and feds.
State gun permits are null and void on tribal land.

In Mass the wompanoag indians can fish and hunt year round for feeding themselves. They do not need any state permits or licenses. They can take herring out of the herring runs. They cannot be interefered with they have basically diplomatic immunity type of status. Any violations are brought to the tribal chief or the tribal police chief for them to handle.

If a tribal member wants to go commercial fishing then they would need to obtain the same licensing as anyone and commercial limits would apply.

Tribal land and tribal treaties are real. Tread lightly on tribal land penalties can be harsh.
 
Tribal law is no joke.
When you step onto tribal land your no longer in the united states. The constitution no longer applies your rights are gone. Your subject to tribal law and punishment. State law does not apply on tribal lands, most federal law also does not apply. The treaty the tribe holds specifies what laws may apply between state and feds.
State gun permits are null and void on tribal land.

In Mass the wompanoag indians can fish and hunt year round for feeding themselves. They do not need any state permits or licenses. They can take herring out of the herring runs. They cannot be interefered with they have basically diplomatic immunity type of status. Any violations are brought to the tribal chief or the tribal police chief for them to handle.

If a tribal member wants to go commercial fishing then they would need to obtain the same licensing as anyone and commercial limits would apply.

Tribal land and tribal treaties are real. Tread lightly on tribal land penalties can be harsh.
Not quite true. In AZ, different tribes will, or won't, recognize the AZ CCW permit. And violations of Federal law are investigated by the Feds, who will hold the "felony" level perpetrators in Federal prisons.
 
to my knowledge foxwood and mohegan sun have there own legal system and considered sovereign, what is it: can't find anything about it or how it is enforced. i already know: no guns, even if you have a state permit. if they are so sovereign why can't we declare war on them, what are they going to do extradite me from and to the united states [joking]?
I think most Indian Tribal Law is under the Federal Statutes and the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Wasn't my area of expertise, but I worked on a res for almost a decade. Don't miss it one bit.
 
to my knowledge foxwood and mohegan sun have there own legal system and considered sovereign, what is it: can't find anything about it or how it is enforced. i already know: no guns, even if you have a state permit. if they are so sovereign why can't we declare war on them, what are they going to do extradite me from and to the united states [joking]?
For starters, read up on the relevant SCOTUS case, Oliphant v. Suquamish Tribe, 1974

Oliphant v. Suquamish Indian Tribe, 435 U.S. 191 (1978) (select the CASE link for the full text)

Unless specific authority is granted by the state the tribe cannot try a non-tribe member. To do so would deprive a non-Native American defendant of his/her rights as the jury would be racially selected to exclude anyone of his/her own race.
 
For all those who believe the thread is foolish, contact the BIA and inquire as to what rights, if any, non tribal people surrender when on the 'res'-good luck getting a reply.
 
The obvious question is - what laws of god, man or the tribe are you thinking of breaking that makes you want to ask?

How much popcorn do we pre-order??

 
Well, Im pretty sure I posted the story here many moons ago but I had the state police called on me by Foxwoods while playing poker. Yes, state police entered and pulled me off table, started questioning me, I told them I have rights and I know my rights, they asked me to remove my 5.56 empty dummy card protector that was scaring Karen and I could go back to playing poker.
Sounds to me like you guys think some indian chief going to come in and tie you to the whiping post;)
 
those tribal laws are no joke and they are strictly enforced, more so if you're a white person. i spent a lot of time on the hopi reservation in arizona in the past and if you don't know the laws you're f***ed. taking a photo while on the reservation without a permit will get you taken in and jailed by tribal police. do it over a holiday and you'll sit in that cell until that holiday is over and someone comes in to set your bail. i had quite a talk with the tribal chief at that time cause i was spending the thanksgiving holiday on the res. yeah, they celebrate and shut down over thanksgiving just like the rest of the country. the chief gave me permission to take photos but couldn't get me the permit in hand in time for me to have it on me. he said go ahead, take your photos, be warned, the police will probably stop if they see you looking for that permit. i said i can tell them you said it was ok, right? oh sure...he's laughing now...but you'll still spend 3 days in jail...laughing harder now. i swear, i never saw so many police vehicles in my life in the middle of no where. the tribal police force were all over that highway. and yes, they were in full sized blazers cruising the hiways and biways of their reservation.
 
someone asked what i was doing talking to the tribal chief...no, i didn't know him. when i found out i needed a permit to take photos on the reservation, i called the tribal offices late in the afternoon for info and to see if arrangements could be made that i could pick a permit up when i drove onto the reservation. everyone was gone for the day and wouldn't be back until that monday. the tribal chief was the only one in the building and he picked up the phone when old greencobra called. end of story! :)
 
AZ tribal cops are too busy smuggling drugs to give a f*** and if they do i aint skeer'd a fittin no injuns
 
those tribal laws are no joke and they are strictly enforced, more so if you're a white person. i spent a lot of time on the hopi reservation in arizona in the past and if you don't know the laws you're f***ed. taking a photo while on the reservation without a permit will get you taken in and jailed by tribal police. do it over a holiday and you'll sit in that cell until that holiday is over and someone comes in to set your bail. i had quite a talk with the tribal chief at that time cause i was spending the thanksgiving holiday on the res. yeah, they celebrate and shut down over thanksgiving just like the rest of the country. the chief gave me permission to take photos but couldn't get me the permit in hand in time for me to have it on me. he said go ahead, take your photos, be warned, the police will probably stop if they see you looking for that permit. i said i can tell them you said it was ok, right? oh sure...he's laughing now...but you'll still spend 3 days in jail...laughing harder now. i swear, i never saw so many police vehicles in my life in the middle of no where. the tribal police force were all over that highway. and yes, they were in full sized blazers cruising the hiways and biways of their reservation.

Somewhere I have an article that advises not to photograph tribal members and especially not to take pictures of their ceremonial dances-both most probably will result in your device/camera being taken-permanently.
 
Somewhere I have an article that advises not to photograph tribal members and especially not to take pictures of their ceremonial dances-both most probably will result in your device/camera being taken-permanently.
can't say for sure but it makes sense. i certainly wouldn't photograph some sacred event...but in a lot of situations, those dances are put on for tourists.
 
Tribal law is no joke.
When you step onto tribal land your no longer in the united states. The constitution no longer applies your rights are gone. Your subject to tribal law and punishment. State law does not apply on tribal lands, most federal law also does not apply. The treaty the tribe holds specifies what laws may apply between state and feds.
State gun permits are null and void on tribal land.

In Mass the wompanoag indians can fish and hunt year round for feeding themselves. They do not need any state permits or licenses. They can take herring out of the herring runs. They cannot be interefered with they have basically diplomatic immunity type of status. Any violations are brought to the tribal chief or the tribal police chief for them to handle.

If a tribal member wants to go commercial fishing then they would need to obtain the same licensing as anyone and commercial limits would apply.

Tribal land and tribal treaties are real. Tread lightly on tribal land penalties can be harsh.
I'm not sure this is true. I've never researched the subject (and do not intend to) but have had one experience.

My wife and I once had lunch in a restaurant at the Foxwoods Casino. Since I'm such a nice guy, she bought me lunch. And then forgot her credit card when we left the restaurant.

So we go back for her card. The restaurant manager has her card, but won't return it to my wife because she cannot produce a driver's license for identification. (My wife does not drive and does not have a driver's license.)

So I called the Connecticut State Police. A Trooper showed up and gave the restaurant manager two choices: return my wife's credit card or be arrested for larceny. The manager chose the latter, and we left with her license in hand.
 
The funny part about this is that WE are the new Native Americans. We are natively born to this country.

The not so funny part is that the government is attempting to, again, perform a genocide on the Native Americans.... US.
 
The funny part about this is that WE are the new Native Americans. We are natively born to this country.

The not so funny part is that the government is attempting to, again, perform a genocide on the Native Americans.... US.
Good try. Not even close.
 
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