Vermont Gun Grabbers are up to no good.

[Mr Weebles]

Plan in Vermont is to 'inch forward' on guns in spite of state law

The effort to enact state preemption law-violating “gun control” measures in Burlington is being advanced in steps as recommended by Rep. Linda Waite-Simpson of Essex and anti-gun activists, the Vermont Federation of Sportmen’s Clubs reported yesterday, citing the latest “Vermont this Week” Public Television panel. The revealed game plan is to settle for incremental gains and then go back later to try for further measures,

“[T]he Burlington City Council's charter committee changed its proposed gun control ordinance … in hopes of having it pass at the Burlington Council City Public Hearing,” VFSC told its supporters in an advisory alert.

This is confined to Burlington for now, thankfully.

Be sure to download and read the council minutes. Those people are delusional.

 

[Garys]

This will gather steam as all those liberals from NY and MA move up to Vermont to enjoy the benefits of living in the state. Not that VT is liberal already, but this will just speed things up.

 

[mpkeelee]

It's spreading! Drop napalm now

Deja vu

 

[slap shot]

This is confined to Burlington for now, thankfully.

Maybe today, but this kind of crap only flows in one direction. The best the 2A activists seem to be able to do is slow things down, now and then...

 

[NEVER SURRENDER]

They just keep poking the bear.

 

[taz-2005]

This will gather steam as all those liberals from NY and MA move up to Vermont to enjoy the benefits of living in the state. Not that VT is liberal already, but this will just speed things up.

Gallup poll has VT the 4th most liberal state.

The 10 Most Liberal States In The U.S. - Business Insider

 

[jron]

Hippies....

 

[AllaSnackbah]

this is why im scared to move to NH, 10 years ago VT was the bomb

 

[ntomsw]

this is why im scared to move to NH, 10 years ago VT was the bomb

Don't be scared. Believe me.

It's them that should be scared.

 

[NEVER SURRENDER]

Gallup poll has VT the 4th most liberal state.

The 10 Most Liberal States In The U.S. - Business Insider

What do you expect when they keep electing an openly socialist senator Sanders?

 

[taz-2005]

What do you expect when they keep electing an openly socialist senator Sanders?

Don't forget Leaky Leahy as well.

VT, like MA comes in two colors: blue and dark blue.

 

[discjoker]

These measures wont pass muster. They can enact all they want in Burlington but it flies in the face of the state constitution which is the law of the land. No local pre-emption of state firearms laws period. This would need to get approved at the state level (after Burlington passes it) and I really don't see that happening.

 

[Come and take]

Gallup poll has VT the 4th most liberal state.

The 10 Most Liberal States In The U.S. - Business Insider

I puked when I saw Mass. Lizzy is a douche!

 

[mac1911]

is vermont as liberal as in the liberals my dad bitched about 20 years ago (basically hippies) or the liberals he warned me about 2 years ago, communist,socialists ? My dad hunted in VT and we camped in white river junction area alot. My dad always said the only thing keeping him from moving to vermount was the people ? It is spreading....what I see is the anti gun people are on a mission they will not stop. Gun owners as a collective dont seem to be on the same pro 2a mission?

 

[drgrant]

Vermont liberalism is weird, though, I can't really explain it. It's nothing at all like MA liberalism. I dated one up there a couple of times. Her family had like 4 hunting cabins and owns a shitload of guns.

Burlington might as well be Cambridge north... not exactly a hotbed of anything "moderate" by any stretch.

Think about it for a minute... that state has been hard left for decades... so you have to ask the question... why didn't these laws become a threat back when they were politically far more viable? Probably because local/grassroots level in them in that state is pretty much zero beyond a few handfuls of hard core antis. This is a bunch of hardcore moonbats trying to make themselves look more important than they actually are.

-Mike

 

[taz-2005]

Vermont liberalism is weird, though, I can't really explain it. It's nothing at all like MA liberalism. I dated one up there a couple of times. Her family had like 4 hunting cabins and owns a shitload of guns.

Burlington might as well be Cambridge north... not exactly a hotbed of anything "moderate" by any stretch.

Think about it for a minute... that state has been hard left for decades... so you have to ask the question... why didn't these laws become a threat back when they were politically far more viable? Probably because local/grassroots level in them in that state is pretty much zero beyond a few handfuls of hard core antis. This is a bunch of hardcore moonbats trying to make themselves look more important than they actually are.

-Mike

It is a strange state, the fall happened in the 60's with the mass exodus from NY and MA. Then in the 70's VT passed Act 250 that limited development and that attracted the granola crunchers plus the population has been pretty flat for several decades.

 

[mikem317]

this is why im scared to move to NH, 10 years ago VT was the bomb

Just do it. Much better footing up here.

 

[RadiCS]

Just do it. Much better footing up here.

This.

 

[Zappa]

Gallup poll has VT the 4th most liberal state.

The 10 Most Liberal States In The U.S. - Business Insider

Why didn't California make that list ????

 

[Hoover]

Vermont liberalism is weird, though, I can't really explain it. It's nothing at all like MA liberalism. I dated one up there a couple of times. Her family had like 4 hunting cabins and owns a shitload of guns.

Burlington might as well be Cambridge north... not exactly a hotbed of anything "moderate" by any stretch.

Think about it for a minute... that state has been hard left for decades... so you have to ask the question... why didn't these laws become a threat back when they were politically far more viable? Probably because local/grassroots level in them in that state is pretty much zero beyond a few handfuls of hard core antis. This is a bunch of hardcore moonbats trying to make themselves look more important than they actually are.

-Mike

One of the big reasons why gun control doesn't take off in places like Vermont and Maine is because they are very rural states. Vermont's biggest "city" Burlington is only around 30,000 people, the second biggest is much smaller and so on. There is a big difference between the rural liberals and the city liberals. Maine votes for POTUS by congressional district, the northern district in Maine is all rural but still voted for obama. That district is very pro gun, the southern with Portland is less so. Just look at the liberals in MA. There is a big difference in their view gun control with the D's from western mass and the ones inside 495.

Nothing will happen in VT. After Sandy Hook there was talk and bills introduced in the legislature but they were all killed before they were even voted on. And Vt has solid D majorities and a nut liberal Gov.

 

[taz-2005]

Why didn't California make that list ????

It is/was #12; why they call DC a state is beyond me though.

Alabama, North Dakota, Wyoming Most Conservative States

 

[hunt4riches]

this is why im scared to move to NH, 10 years ago VT was the bomb

Just remember, whatever happens in NH... it'll be WORSE in MA. Example: All firearms become 100% outlawed in NH, and in MA you get 20-years just for typing the word "gun" in an internet forum.

 

[Editor]

Why didn't California make that list ????

As someone who has lived and worked in California and have close relatives there, I assure you the state -- geographically speaking -- is not a bastion of liberalism. It's the enormous voting blocks of LA and SF which skew the state toward moonbatism. Otherwise, the state has a lot of conservative, commonsense folks.

And even with those big liberal enclaves, they still manage to elect Republicans from time to time, e.g., the Governator.

 

[drgrant]

As someone who has lived and worked in California and have close relatives there, I assure you the state -- geographically speaking -- is not a bastion of liberalism. It's the enormous voting blocks of LA and SF which skew the state toward moonbatism. Otherwise, the state has a lot of conservative, commonsense folks.

And even with those big liberal enclaves, they still manage to elect Republicans from time to time, e.g., the Governator.

CA is geographically conservative but it's politically liberal because the moonbats have gerrymandered the entire state to marginalize all the non moonbats. That's why the state is so ****ed up- they more or less locked non-moonbats out of the legislature.

-Mike

 

[Zappa]

Maine votes for POTUS by congressional district, the northern district in Maine is all rural but still voted for obama.

How many of them are collecting welfare and EBT ????
BTW, Maine ranks #3 in the nation for welfare.
They vote for the party giving the most handouts.

 

[The5thDentist]

We need to start an outreach program to Democratic gun owners. Help them understand that their favorite political party not only doesn't represent them and their conclusions about life, but is 100% opposed to their world-view. Heck, the Republican party doesn't fully represent liberty-loving American patriots, but at least we still have some sway in the party. Not enough power yet to make big changes, but it's coming. If we can just get a percentage of gun-owning Dems to sit out elections, then we can get even better results.

 

[exo]

I don't understand VT sometimes. There's a bill, H.341 which would modify the ban on suppressors by adding "a person who is using the firearm for a lawful purpose" to the exemptions part of the law. And there's another bill, H.335, which repeals the law on suppressors entirely... but also would add a 48hr waiting period for buying guns from a dealer.

 

[drgrant]

I don't understand VT sometimes. There's a bill, H.341 which would modify the ban on suppressors by adding "a person who is using the firearm for a lawful purpose" to the exemptions part of the law. And there's another bill, H.335, which repeals the law on suppressors entirely... but also would add a 48hr waiting period for buying guns from a dealer.

The second one was probably authored by some shithead who thought it would be a good idea to try to throw the antis a sort of "carrot" in exchange for getting the law changed, if I was going to make a WAG it's probably some guy who wants to go into business selling suppressors in VT and doesn't care who he sends down the river in the process.

-Mike

 

[cekim]

Vermont liberalism is weird, though, I can't really explain it. It's nothing at all like MA liberalism. I dated one up there a couple of times. Her family had like 4 hunting cabins and owns a shitload of guns.

As best as I can tell, Vermont is a bit of a discontinuity on the political spectrum which avoids collapsing into a black-hole by virtue of geography. The libtards in Burlington and Montpelier coexist with the people in the hills by virtue of not talking to each other.

 

[taz-2005]

As someone who has lived and worked in California and have close relatives there, I assure you the state -- geographically speaking -- is not a bastion of liberalism. It's the enormous voting blocks of LA and SF which skew the state toward moonbatism. Otherwise, the state has a lot of conservative, commonsense folks.

And even with those big liberal enclaves, they still manage to elect Republicans from time to time, e.g., the Governator.

Seems like there is an East and West California.