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Vietnam War hero sentenced to 7 years for decades-old rifle purchase

Who owns an M-14, a real one - not a forgery M1A, and doesn't shoot it? For 35 years?
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Anybody who has ever shot one,once is all it takes to realize it's a POS on full auto,uncontrollable.

I'm just glad our country has such low crime rates and the flow of illegal guns into cities like Chicago has stopped,that the .gov has enough time to go after real criminals like this guy.
 
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I find that equally as unconcerning. So he possessed a couple things the government doesn't like. The horror! Unless he was doing things with them to hurt others I don't care. Weed? Most state governments don't even care. A rifle he owned for 35 years and kept in a display case and never used for anything, nevertheless anything bad? A type of rifle he was given to use in the military. An object expressly mentioned as something you have a right to own. I cannot think of anything that's less wrong.

More here including child sexual abuse and kiddie porn:

There is- kiddie porn, drugs and crazy.
 
I don't know a Vietnam Vet that hasn't wanted to kill a VA hospital employee at one time or other. As far as the rest of the charges you allege, effing shame on you, you don't shite about the 'justice system'.

I'm alleging nothing, just passing on observations found elsewhere that give a different spin on this. Look around, it's not just on subguns.
 
More here including child sexual abuse and kiddie porn:

There is- kiddie porn, drugs and crazy.

So why are they leading the story with the Veteran with a machinegun?

Veteran - so what? Great guys and jerks are from every group.
M-14 - I'm jealous. (they were before my time, and uncontrollable or not, I bet I'd smile shooting one)
Drugs - meh, who cares
Crazy - debatable - I have no love for the VA either
Kiddy diddler - hang him
Against his daughter - hang him upside down

Guess I answered my own question - it was the only way to get clicks.
 
I call bullshit on the guy's story that he bought it at a "gun show." I hate it when I see dealers selling FA rifles over the counter with "scratched off" serial numbers at those gun shows. Must be that "Gun Show Loophole".
 
My guess is a "concerned" friend/family member ratted him out after having noticed it at the wake.
Unregistered M14? Ultimate SHTF rifle. It should have been buried in a Schedule 40 PVC tube with 20 full cap magazines and 500 rounds of fresh M80 ball in an isolated location. His mistake was prominently displaying an illegal item. I believe that a family member turned him in.
 
So why are they leading the story with the Veteran with a machinegun?

Veteran - so what? Great guys and jerks are from every group.
M-14 - I'm jealous. (they were before my time, and uncontrollable or not, I bet I'd smile shooting one)
Drugs - meh, who cares
Crazy - debatable - I have no love for the VA either
Kiddy diddler - hang him
Against his daughter - hang him upside down

Guess I answered my own question - it was the only way to get clicks.
I know an old timer with 4 unregistered
Unregistered M14? Ultimate SHTF rifle. It should have been buried in a Schedule 40 PVC tube with 20 full cap magazines and 500 rounds of fresh M80 ball in an isolated location. His mistake was prominently displaying an illegal item. I believe that a family member turned him in.
I've h
Unregistered M14? Ultimate SHTF rifle. It should have been buried in a Schedule 40 PVC tube with 20 full cap magazines and 500 rounds of fresh M80 ball in an isolated location. His mistake was prominently displaying an illegal item. I believe that a family member turned him in.
They are out there I know of 4. Not mine lols but they are out there.
 
So do we follow the laws as written, even though we may disagree, and may even be working to change them?
Or do we ignore all the laws and just do what we want, making own own individual decisions?
Or do we individually pick and choose what laws we follow?
And if we have chosen not to follow a law, do we claim victim status if we face legal consequences, or do we accept the consequences of our choices?

I offer no opinion, just asking the question.
 
was he pitched for full auto or the serial number?

in either case if you agree with this "a fully automatic weapon illegal to own" you do not support 2A.

In the real world;
Whether or not something is illegal is dependant on what is written in law. It's a statement of fact, nothing more and nothing less.
A person supporting 2a, and how they interpret it, is a matter of personal opinion.
The two are not exclusive of each other. In fact it is this difference, that something is illegal and we support/believe a different standard should apply, that creates the current situation in our legal system.
 
I'n no fan of the NFA, to be sure, but let's not canonize this guy just yet.

Check out this article:

There's a shitload more to this than an old vet with an illegal M14. To wit:

Federal prosecutors released more information on Friday shedding light on Pick’s dark past.

According to information presented to the court, Pick had repeatedly been cited for criminal trespass at various area hospitals for his aggressive behavior, involving both verbal and physical abuse of medical staff and impeding staff. The court also heard that police had been called on two prior occasions in 2014 to restaurant parking lots where patrons reported that Pick had been threatening and brandished handguns in encounters with him.

Also, Pick’s daughter reported to Pick had sexually abused her from the time she was 4-years-old until the age of 17, taking nude photographs of her to, as he put it, “chart her growth” and sexually assaulting her.

The court also received evidence that Pick threatened the Federal Magistrate Judge who detained him indicating he would fly his plane with explosives to kill the Judge and ATF agents who investigated his case. Pick also said he would “have taught the Las Vegas shooter a thing or two,” referring to the Oct. 1, 2017 mass shooting.

“Obviously, there was a lot more to the sentence that was received – a sentence that Mr. Pick and his lawyer agreed to – than a single gun with a missing serial number,” said U.S. Attorney Joseph D. Brown. “Although Mr. Pick was a decorated veteran, he would use that status routinely to try to excuse his repeated criminal behavior. This was also not a mental health issue. It became a public safety issue.”
 
So do we follow the laws as written, even though we may disagree, and may even be working to change them?
Or do we ignore all the laws and just do what we want, making own own individual decisions?
Or do we individually pick and choose what laws we follow?
And if we have chosen not to follow a law, do we claim victim status if we face legal consequences, or do we accept the consequences of our choices?

I offer no opinion, just asking the question.

You do what you feel is morally right.
 
But He needs to serve because he doesn’t get to decide what laws he follows.
You've never gone over the speed limit? Crossed the street on a do not walk signal? Bought alcohol in NH and brought it back to MA? You're not only hypocritical but also a statist and a Fudd who doesn't understand the 2A - I couldn't care less of some dude has an illegal machine gun as long as he's not hurting anyone.
 
I call bullshit on the guy's story that he bought it at a "gun show." I hate it when I see dealers selling FA rifles over the counter with "scratched off" serial numbers at those gun shows. Must be that "Gun Show Loophole".
Very solid point right there.
 
If you understand the intent and true purpose of the second amendment.
You see why they carefully used such simple words.
That it would be inconceivable for anyone to mistake it for anything, but for what it is!

No one in these United States should and could ever be charged with a firearm crime because of what it guarantees.

Ok, for the police and federal officers and military to posses. But not for the citizens that make up this very country?
That is surely NOT what the 2nd amendment intended!

Not guilty!

Instead it is a crime according to our constitution to charge and imprison such a citizen of OUR country!

The constitution was about the "People's" rights. Not those of the government of which we empower to preserve those rights!

Remember, of what they endured under the Crown and ruler-ship of the King of England!

Power to the people! Not of our Govt.!
 
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So we’re not making him the poster child for the 2A now?
You've never gone over the speed limit? Crossed the street on a do not walk signal? Bought alcohol in NH and brought it back to MA? You're not only hypocritical but also a statist and a Fudd who doesn't understand the 2A - I couldn't care less of some dude has an illegal machine gun as long as he's not hurting anyone.
[laugh2] Yeah ok, another Sovereign citizen wanna be I guess. Let’s all work off the Kalash legal system, obey the laws we all “feel” we should. What other laws have YOU determined we should or should not follow. Maybe you and your occupy Wall Street buddys can draft up new laws for us all us to follow at your next rally. Oh and again who’s gun is it? You the kind of scum that buys other people’s stolen property? Buying others stolen goods ok in the Kalash legal system too?
 
Thank God we have the Government to tell us what we can and can't do, I mean possessing an item for decades and never doing anything to bother anyone with it just reeks with evil intent. I feel much safer, and George Soros is very proud of the good Americans who put this guy in prison as an example to the rest of us as an object lesson not to disagree with our government.
 
Thank God we have the Government to tell us what we can and can't do, I mean possessing an item for decades and never doing anything to bother anyone with it just reeks with evil intent. I feel much safer, and George Soros is very proud of the good Americans who put this guy in prison as an example to the rest of us as an object lesson not to disagree with our government.
Who’s gun is it?
 
So we’re not making him the poster child for the 2A now?

[laugh2] Yeah ok, another Sovereign citizen wanna be I guess. Let’s all work off the Kalash legal system, obey the laws we all “feel” we should. What other laws have YOU determined we should or should not follow. Maybe you and your occupy Wall Street buddys can draft up new laws for us all us to follow at your next rally. Oh and again who’s gun is it? You the kind of scum that buys other people’s stolen property? Buying others stolen goods ok in the Kalash legal system too?
Do you or do you not break some laws on a daily basis, such as my examples earlier? At the very least answer this: do you think that we must blindly obey any and all laws, no matter how minor or if we consider them unconstitutional?

This conversation isn't about stolen property because he was not charged with possession of stolen property. You're desperately trying to hide the fact that you're a statist and a Fudd by making up unrelated topics. My guess is that you're once again going to not answer my questions.
 
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