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If parents send their children to a school that then suffers a shooting,... Maybe parents said they wouldn’t send their kids to schools that had guns. ...
did they send them to a school that had guns?
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If parents send their children to a school that then suffers a shooting,... Maybe parents said they wouldn’t send their kids to schools that had guns. ...
it is not about any rifles, they bake now those universal red flag laws that will be a true universal one-for-all measure. once they enforce a concept of a red flag preemptive confiscation with no certain proof needed - only driven by a 'suspicion' - all that will need to get done after will be a set of proper red flag triggers, that will not take too long to bake up.great point
THIS is why they want to confiscate semi rifles.
I believe that last year about 40k prohibited persons lied on 4473s and tried to buy a gun from a store and they were denied. Lying on the form is a crime, it tells you so on the form. Like 4 of those 40k people were charged as a result of the crime of trying to illegally obtain a gun.Well, I thinks it implied in Universal that it has to be Federal and uniform. So private sales would have to do done at an FFL and include a background check. Any sale of him without a background check would be illegal. But that could still be done without the government knowing you made the transfer. So there is no need for a registry of guns or gun purchasers. There obviously needs to be a registry (or multiple) of people who are blocked. But again there are algorithmic ways for the holder of that list to interface with FFLs without the FFL having access to the unencrypted list or the government to know who they just declined. There is a separate concern of actually trying to arrest those people who were declined because presumably they broke the law in applying. The government would essentially lose that option. But who cares? Why does that even need to a crime. There would only need to be a crime if they get a gun and if they do that legally, it’s the governments fault.
One of the church shootings in TX may have been prevented if the Air Force JAG’s at the base the shooter was stationed at would have entered his information after the Court Martial.It quite literally would never have stopped any of these shootings. There is exactly one shooting it might have helped prevent, had NICS actually had accurate information: the Charleston church shooting. His arrest record should have made him a PP, but NICS approved him. That said, I don't think it would have prevented it entirely. That POS wanted to kill black people, so he was gonna do it no matter what. If he was denied the purchase, I could easily see him having gone the Timothy McVeigh route.
Mag bans also wouldn't have prevented Parkland, since that a**h*** used 10 rounders. That just shows that a 30 round limit is not going to make a difference; a shooter will just bring more 10 rounders.
Assault weapon bans would not have prevented Columbine, and the only effect it would have had on any of the rest is to change the weapon that was used.
That’s not the only case of, if the .gov just followed the law/did their job, the shooter would not have gotten the gun so easily.One of the church shootings in TX may have been prevented if the Air Force JAG’s at the base the shooter was stationed at would have entered his information after the Court Martial.
RIGHT???Caring about gun violence, and putting freedoms, liberties, and possibly adding more violence by gun control is NOT the answer. It needs to be stopped in its tracks. Not "doing gun control" is NOT the same as doing nothing. Try arming teachers. That has not really been tried yet. It is better than "doing nothing". Why not, right?
that sounds quite domestically terroristical of you. good thing our government terror organizations no longer exhibit red coats high morals and ready to incarcerate indefinitely any suspected wrong thinkers with no evidence nor warrant required. where would we be without their diligent service to save us all from ourselves!This is the sort of thing which lead to the American revolution
And here I thought we put it all on the line with the Heller case and it was settled........
“Reportedly still on the table are investments in mental health care and school security, changes to the background check system, and red flag laws.”Murphy Hints at Details of Bipartisan Gun Control Bill
The Senate has been attempting to negotiate a bipartisan gun control bill, but the Democrat helping lead the charge has ruled out many of his party's wish list items.americanbriefing.com
I'm sure expanded background checks would have prevented this:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l9UujYal8
I'm sure expanded background checks would have prevented this:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l9UujYal8
We do need to stay regulated after all. We can add subsidized training at Ridgeline and Sig Academy.How about universal basic ammo allotments?
How about vote allotments? Drink allotments? Church allotments?How about universal basic ammo allotments?
Once one is attuned to spot technocracy in action,The beyond-ideology notion of technology saving us from ourselves was in vogue a century ago ...
People who know nothing about anything,... and has been adopted by the “let the data speak for itself” Progressives.
Biden's claims aside, 2A was authored at a time when individuals owned cannons, bombards, and 1.5" bore swivel guns:Mark Hamill, Jedi - “Don’t get me wrong, as a strong supporter of the 2nd Ammendment [sic]—I believe in every American’s right to own a musket.”
Piers Morgan - “The Second Amendment was devised with muskets in mind, not high-powered handguns and assault rifles. Fact.”
Second 'menment means muskets bro.
And the government owned? Yup, the same.Biden's claims aside, 2A was authored at a time when individuals owned cannons, bombards, and 1.5" bore swivel guns:
High-powered, but technically not a "handgun"
Yeah. I think the gun community needs to put together what we think might help matters. Then the Democrats can reject it and we can say that they don’t care about kids dying. Would be nice for a change. Of course I don’t think we have any good ideas either. There isn’t a whole lot the government can do to identify the people who might shoot up schools.Caring about gun violence, and putting freedoms, liberties, and possibly adding more violence by gun control is NOT the answer. It needs to be stopped in its tracks. Not "doing gun control" is NOT the same as doing nothing. Try arming teachers. That has not really been tried yet. It is better than "doing nothing". Why not, right?
I doubt anything will pass. I’d like to start completely over on UBC. There is a way to do it that most gun owners would actually prefer. Taking it out of the government’s hands. Ensure it is not linked to a registry etc. But that’s also unlikely to happen. Government very rarely ditches their current process and starts over.As for Gun Control, I am not sure about national safe storage laws but I think that national red flag laws and UBC/tighter BG checks will be passed.
I’ve been in touch with both of my Senators and my Congressman, who is taking a few punches from the local media for not supporting any of this garbage. Total hit piece.
Scalise not budging on opposition to gun control
Louisiana Rep. Steve Scalise (R-Metairie) refused to budge on his opposition to expanding gun-control measures during a nationally televised interview on Fox News Sunday (June 5).www.fox8live.com
Yeah. I think the gun community needs to put together what we think might help matters. Then the Democrats can reject it and we can say that they don’t care about kids dying. Would be nice for a change. Of course I don’t think we have any good ideas either. There isn’t a whole lot the government can do to identify the people who might shoot up schools.