Check this out... Pretty extensive testing..
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/
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I need to change my .380 carry load since I might as well be carrying FMJ because the Fed HST isn't expanding. Tough choice though because the .380 has so little energy that the rounds that expand don't penetrate as far.
Interesting (weird) looking stuff. I'd have to see some test results for it. Hopefully these guys at luckygunner.com will add it to their testing so we can see side-by-side results. One down side of the Polycase for me is it's a pretty hot load, even for a +P. I don't like being hard on my semi-autos, and my little S&W Bodyguard isn't that easy to control. It's barely a 2 finger gun with the mag extension and a 1 finger gun without the extension.Check out Polycase Inceptor ammo. I think it is a great option for .380.
If I am at home, a semi auto .22LR rifle with 15-20 rounds is my go to.
Just use the perp's face as the target, problem solved.
If I am at home, a semi auto .22LR rifle with 15-20 rounds is my go to.
Just use the perp's face as the target, problem solved.
I knew folks here would appreciate. There is really some interesting stuff in there. Study looks to have been well done, controlled enough, and the pics of the fired bullets tell a huge part of the story. It's got me thinking about changing my carry ammo. Right now I'm carrying the 9mm Fed HydraShok and it looks to be an inconsistent performer as well. Surprisingly the Remington Golden Saber +P did really well.
Some of the bullets not expanding I think are a bi-product of the "heavy clothing test". The hollow points become clogged/filled with clothing they penetrate through... the testing was based off of the FBI's standardized testing as I understand it.
I thought HydraShoks would do well because they have that point in the center of the hollow point... .but guess not.
I knew folks here would appreciate. There is really some interesting stuff in there. Study looks to have been well done, controlled enough, and the pics of the fired bullets tell a huge part of the story. It's got me thinking about changing my carry ammo. Right now I'm carrying the 9mm Fed HydraShok and it looks to be an inconsistent performer as well. Surprisingly the Remington Golden Saber +P did really well.
Some of the bullets not expanding I think are a bi-product of the "heavy clothing test". The hollow points become clogged/filled with clothing they penetrate through... the testing was based off of the FBI's standardized testing as I understand it.
I thought HydraShoks would do well because they have that point in the center of the hollow point... .but guess not.
one well placed shot beats a dozen misses with the latest magic ammo....
Shoot often, use reasonable ammo and hit your damn target. Tests are for magazine sales...
Previous Black Talon kidding aside, the Remington Golden Saber +P is considered a clone of the ol' Black Talon.
I thought Winchester SXT was the "same exact thing"...Previous Black Talon kidding aside, the Remington Golden Saber +P is considered a clone of the ol' Black Talon.
one well placed shot beats a dozen misses with the latest magic ammo....
Shoot often, use reasonable ammo and hit your damn target. Tests are for magazine sales...
I thought Winchester SXT was the "same exact thing"...
Rookie question here: If the ballistics between 9mm and .40 look fairly close for expansion on the upper performing end, what then is the advantage of .40 in terms of stopping power?
As someone who has run a bunch of both, it certainly isn't. Look up the tests.
Compare something like RA9TA (which was one of the gold standard 9mm loads aside from ones like the Gold Dot 124+P, HST, and a couple others) and its somewhat different from the others.
-Mike
I thought Winchester SXT was the "same exact thing"...