I bought a Sig p226 a few months ago and after a few range visits and three different shooters trying it, a have concluded that the current sights on it are incorrect. From only 25 feet away it groups 1.5 feet low. The sights that are currently on it are the sig night sights, both front and rear sights are labeled 8. What numbers do yours have and what did it come with stock? I would like the sights to be accurate from a range of 25-50 feet. Any suggestions on what numbers I should order would be greatly appreciated. I'm assuming most p226 are nearly identical but if it matters mine is a 2007 production made in the USA.
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What sights do you guys have on your Sig p226?
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Mine has a 10 rear and 8 front.
I bought it used, so I can't say what stock is with authority, bou mine shoots true.
1.5 feet low it's way too low to just be a sight problem though. I'd expect yours to shoot inches low, not feet.
I bought it used, so I can't say what stock is with authority, bou mine shoots true.
1.5 feet low it's way too low to just be a sight problem though. I'd expect yours to shoot inches low, not feet.
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Shoot at this first:
If you're still convinced, have a gunsmith install some night sights. I have Meprolights on my P228 that work well, though in hindsight I'd pick a different color tritium front sight for contrast.
If you're still convinced, have a gunsmith install some night sights. I have Meprolights on my P228 that work well, though in hindsight I'd pick a different color tritium front sight for contrast.
I have an older P226 and hate the stock sites. The bullet will hit behind the sites low. Was told your supposed to cover your target with the sites. If you ever wanted to shoot bowling pins you could never see what your shooting at. I had been looking at these. http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=24696/Product/ADVANTAGE-TACTICAL-SIGHT-SET
I want the site picture to be pumpkin on a post when done and not sure it will be like that so I haven't ordered it yet.
I want the site picture to be pumpkin on a post when done and not sure it will be like that so I haven't ordered it yet.
My buddy had this same problem when he bought his new 226 a year ago. Turns out that it was his shooting, after some practice his sights are dead on. He tried to get two different shops to adjust them, luckily no one would. I have the factory sights on my 226 and honestly like them very much. They are dead on and hit what I aim at, as long as I do my part.
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A foot and a half at 25 feet? It's not the sights.
Stock sights for the 9mm and .357 sig are #8 front and #8 rear.
The highest sights available from Sig are a #9 front and a #10 rear, which would raise your POI a whopping 5 inches at 25 YARDS, which is only 1 2/3 inches at 25 feet.
From minimum (#5 front, #5 rear) to maximum (#9 front, #10 rear) there's a total of 14 inches of adjustment at 25 yards. You're at 25 feet so divide that by 3.
In theory yours should shoot about 4" higher than stock at 25 yards. (Each step up on the rear is 2", each step up on the front is 1".)
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while I am some what new to pistol shooting, I refuse to believe the sights are correct. I've shot 500-600 rounds out of this pistol and the sights still seem very unnatural. Every other pistol I've ever used has been line up the dots. With my Sig it's more like make an equilateral triangle
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Snagged this from pistol-training.com:
Which sight picture are you using? I use #3 with my 9mm P226 and it's dead on to 25-30 yards.
ETA: Just checked my sights, both front and rear have an 8 stamped in to them, and have "Al MH3" written on the sides.
Which sight picture are you using? I use #3 with my 9mm P226 and it's dead on to 25-30 yards.
ETA: Just checked my sights, both front and rear have an 8 stamped in to them, and have "Al MH3" written on the sides.
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Snagged this from pistol-training.com:
Which sight picture are you using? I use #3 with my 9mm P226 and it's dead on to 25-30 yards.
ETA: Just checked my sights, both front and rear have an 8 stamped in to them, and have "Al MH3" written on the sides.
using #3 it groups a foot low at 25-35 feet. Three different people have tried my pistol and with the same results. If any one is still convinced it's me, I welcome you to try for yourself.
Sniper977
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My P229 (yes its 40 but same basic trajectory as a 9mm round) has #8 rear and #6 front. Shoots dead on at 25 yards with Sight Image #2 from the above posts. Perhaps you should change your front sight to a #6 and try it out. If you get the sight I can install it for you. I have a SIG sight pusher. Just did some Mepro night sights for a friend on his P228. PM me if interested.
Ok I'll fess up, I'm the buddy, and my misses were the typical low left variety. But we're talking 2-4" of low left from 7-10 yards not, not 1-2 feet...that wouldn't even hit the paper.
My front site is a 6, and the rear is 8, and I hit dead on via site picture #3 from that earlier post
I've been using WWB (200rnd), cheap Federal (300 rnd), UMC (300 rnd). Now that you mention it, it did seam to do a little better with WWB but still a bit low. I'll try some more WWB from a rest and report back. Thanks for the help and suggestions so far.
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I see you're profile says Western MA, but if you ever happen to be in the Malden area you're welcome to swing by my club and I'll take a look. I also have a couple different p226's with different sight setups that you could try.
Pugnax88
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Where in Western MA are you? I've got a 226 myself and while the sights take getting used to, they are pretty dead-on for me. just have to realize you aren't looking for the "pumpkin on a post" and make your peace with that.
I live in Plainfield which is the last town in Hampshire county before entering the Berkshires on RT116. I have realized the concept of how the Sig sights are suppose to work but like I said, even covering the target with the sights doesn't seam right to me.
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Yeah, but you made that adjustment within twenty rounds. He has put more than 500 rounds through the gun.
Even with no sights on the gun, at that distance, there is now way you should be measuring the inaccuracy in feet. Something is up.
Did you buy the gun new?
No, I bought it used. I guess I might now know why the previous owner sold it. On Saturday I'll take it to the range and shoot from a rest and post some pictures so you guys can see what I mean.
Snagged this from pistol-training.com:
Which sight picture are you using? I use #3 with my 9mm P226 and it's dead on to 25-30 yards.
ETA: Just checked my sights, both front and rear have an 8 stamped in to them, and have "Al MH3" written on the sides.
Went to the range today and using sight image 3 I experimented with 2 different kinds of ammo at 2 different distances and each from a rested and standing position. With each test I took 3 shots.
I started out by establishing a control by using Federal ammunition from a standing position at 10 and 25 feet.
From 10 feet the point of impact was 4 inches low
From 25 feet the point of impact was 9.5 inches low
Next I switch to WWB ammo from a standing position at 10 and 25 feet
From 10 feet the point of impact was 3.5 inches low
From 25 feet the point of impact was 8.5 inches low
Now I tried the Federal ammo from a rested position at 10 and 25 feet
From 10 feet the point of impact was 2.5 inches low
From 25 feet the point of impact was 6 inches low
Then I used WWB from a rested position at 10 and 25 feet
From 10 feet the point of impact was 1.75 inches low
From 25 feet the point of impact was 4 inches low
From the results I concluded that ammo used, human error, and misaligned sights were all likely reasons the point of impact was low. Since the WWB ammo is having a closer to correct point of impact I am now only using WWB for the farther tests. Also the point of impact from a rested position to a standing position had slightly different results so I assumed there is some error in my shooting. After looking at the shooting chart, shooting low is likely because of breaking wrist down, pushing forward of drooping head. After some practice while being more alert to those things I retried shooting WWB from a standing position at 10 and 25 feet and was able to match the results from a rested position.
So I conclude that the results from using WWB from a rested position at 10 and 25 feet are a correct determination of how my P226 aims.
From 10 feet the point of impact is 1.75 inches low
From 25 feet the point of impact is 4 inches low
It's not the 1.5 feet that I was saying before, that was a bit of an exaggeration but you can see that using federal ammo from 25 feet the point of impact was 9.5 inches low. Using different ammo and correcting my shooting error the point of impact is now 4 inches low. So the way I see it, I've corrected half the error but 4 inches low at 25 feet seems unacceptable. With these results does anybody have any more input or suggestions? All help is greatly appreciated.
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What exactly could someone have done to "futz" with them? According to the description they're stock #8 front / #8 rear. The combination that would give the highest possible POI are #9 front / #10 rear, which would change the POI less than a couple inches at such short range.
The fact that the POI changes (for the better) when he moves to the rest pretty much proves that it's not the sights.
