Which 9mm carbine?

[Coyote33]

Kel-Tec Sub2000 or Hi-Point 995?

I know, Ruger is preferable. Could at least simplify by using Glock mags on both if KelTec. Have a HighPoint with 3 or 4 of their mags. KelTec is I think $350.

Does Ruger also take Glock mags?

 

[AJK129]

Kel-Tec Sub2000 or Hi-Point 995?

I know, Ruger is preferable. Could at least simplify by using Glock mags on both if KelTec. Have a HighPoint with 3 or 4 of their mags. KelTec is I think $350.

Does Ruger also take Glock mags?

I'd personally go with the kel-tec. I haven't gotten one yet due to priorities but the compactness and glock mags make it for me.

I also like that its a bit unique

 

[Varmint]

Ruger takes Glock mags. It's not quite as fuggly in latest form.

 

[luckythirteengt]

Hi point is a pain in the ass to clean and it's a hi point. Kel tec is probably better due to mags. I chose to do a 9mm ar it cost a bit more but was worth it.

 

[Amputee Marksman]

If I'm go to get one it would be the Ruger however I'd go for the Kel-Tec over the Hi Point.

 

[drgrant]

I would do the Ruger hands down, no contest. Ruger PC9s all come with a glock mag adapter in the box.

 

[Sparkey]

I have both they are ok for range toys
I find the hi point more comfortable to shoot the sub 2000 seems really short and hits me in the cheek. If I had to choose for truck gun Keltec folds up small takes Glock mags. Plinking steel at range HI point.
Ideally I would like to have a 9mm AR configuration or a nice Camp 9

 

[bob6180]

Out of the two options, Ruger PC9

 

[seanc]

What about a Kriss? Or an Uzi? Or even a feather (was actually a very cool reliable shooter and a lot of fun)

there are a bunch of 9mm carbines I would take before either of those

 

[Bladerunner]

Kel-Tec Sub2000 or Hi-Point 995?

I know, Ruger is preferable. Could at least simplify by using Glock mags on both if KelTec. Have a HighPoint with 3 or 4 of their mags. KelTec is I think $350.

Does Ruger also take Glock mags?

Ruger PC9 tactical hands down. Finally found one last week. Got effin delayed again. Picking it up tomorrow.

Takes glock mags. Tandem Kross upgrades are going on mine but not the gay red color shit.

Just ordered a TG9 for it. Really going to pimp this gun out so I can be a player.

 

[mousegunguy]

I had a sub 2000. I still have a beretta Cx4 storm.

 

[mav]

Have no experience with either of the OP’s choices. Personally I went with a CZ Scorpion. Just waiting on my NFA paperwork to SBR it. Been fun at the range.

 

[Varmint]

I would do the Ruger hands down, no contest. Ruger PC9s all come with a glock mag adapter in the box.

i see there's now a Mass compliant version, any reason to get the free state version and have it made compliant instead?

 

[SDG]

Second vote for the CX4 storm. I picked one up last month from a fellow NESr. Things the bomb. Beats out keltec and Ruger.

 

[Bladerunner]

Second vote for the CX4 storm. I picked one up last month from a fellow NESr. Things the bomb. Beats out keltec and Ruger.

That rifle is ugly as f***. Is it true it has a plastic hammer?

 

[jpm]

I love my CZ scorpion but given the 2 choices above I'd go with hi point since they have that lifetime no questions asked warranty. I know more than one person who has used that.

 

[LittleCalm]

Another vote for the CZ.

 

[drgrant]

i see there's now a Mass compliant version, any reason to get the free state version and have it made compliant instead?

There was always an "AWB compliant" version, the only diff was the mags that came in the box. There's no PG on the stock one so the threaded
barrel is OK. The only reason you'd want the other one is if you want the railed forend, but then you have to neuter it because of the pistol grip, so you'd then
have to pin the barrel nut on and put a fixed stock on it. if you care about those kinds of things.

 

[Thirwell1216]

Spare yourself the agony of buying something you will hate in a year like the Keltec or the Hipoint. Just go for the CZ Scorpion and enjoy a nice carbine. You could also build an AR in 9mm.

 

[enbloc]

I have and enjoy two Gen1.0 Kel-tec Subbies. One in 9mm and one in .40.
They are toys to me and I would not trust my life to them.
The best characteristic, in my opinion, is the folding configuration.



That said, I'm looking forward to picking up a Ruger PC...

 

[Reptile]

If you have an unlimited budget...

https://noveske.com/products/02000829

You would have to build and SBR it.

 

[enbloc]

What is the intended use of this rifle???

 

[FiremanBob]

Have tried both. The Hi Point is a steaming pile of excrement. The Subby is quite good, especially with a few of the MCarbo upgrades.

 

[PATRON]

I always found that one of each works great.

 

[SDG]

That rifle is ugly as f***. Is it true it has a plastic hammer?

Yeah you’re right. The polymer fad will never catch on.

 

[Varmint]

There was always an "AWB compliant" version, the only diff was the mags that came in the box. There's no PG on the stock one so the threaded
barrel is OK. The only reason you'd want the other one is if you want the railed forend, but then you have to neuter it because of the pistol grip, so you'd then
have to pin the barrel nut on and put a fixed stock on it. if you care about those kinds of things.

thanks yeah I was talking about the one I pictured with pistol grip.

 

[Varmint]

Spare yourself the agony of buying something you will hate in a year like the Keltec or the Hipoint. Just go for the CZ Scorpion and enjoy a nice carbine. You could also build an AR in 9mm.

Preban mags are the main advantage of the Ruger otherwise the CZ or even Sig would be more attractive. I'm almost to the point of not caring about mags laws, but not quite there yet.

 

[rep308]

I love my Beretta CX storm. Plenty of pre ban mags. I'm a lefty so I can set it up for ambi shooting. High quality, no problems. The OOTB trigger isn't great but I pulled the trigger group and sent it off to these guys:

CX4 Gunsmithing Services — Beretta CX4 Storm Accessories & Parts Upgrades

sierrapapacx4.com

 

[babygorilla]

Sub2k. Keep it as a truck gun / Get home gun.

 

[Al-Jim19]

of the two the keltec hands down. It folds and its not much more money and glock mags are the way to go. If you add the pc9 to the mix its a little more complicated. If its strictly a range toy id do the ruger but if you have an aim to travel or use the folding feature for something maybe the keltec.

If it were me i lean toward the keltec.