Would this be legal or illegal: open carrying in NH on the NH/MA border?

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Why would you want to taunt the Police in either state[rolleyes]

I'm not trying to taunt anyone. If it's legal for me to do, I want to exercise my rights some day. And if I end up near the border I want to have some confidence that it would be too problematic.
 
WHY!!!! I don't get this whole thread! #1 it is NOT illegal to open carry in NH. If you are IN NH then you are not breaking the law. To me this seems like a stunt that someone would do if they needed some attention or wanted to give all of us a bad name. Just drop the damn thing already!
 
Why would you want to taunt the Police in either state[rolleyes]

Open carrying is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Owning a firearm is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Speaking my mind is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Refusing an unjustified search is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

etc etc

That said, would I carry openly all the time?, nope, because carrying concealed gives me an advantage.

Edit to add: I try not to be one of the people who always says "you need to move to a free state" but some of the board members (not referring to acp 45 specifically) here seem to have got so used to oppressive nanny state politics in MA that they are accepting it as inevitable for the whole country and possibly even an acceptable compromise so they can still own a gun.

We have a Constitution for a reason, the second amendment is part of that for a reason, and it includes the words "shall not be infringed" for a reason. The second amendment exists just in case politicians start ignoring the Constitution, and that is exactly why they try to make it a group/militia right and/or try to impose "reasonable" limitations, "for the children".
 
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Open carrying is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Owning a firearm is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Speaking my mind is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Refusing an unjustified search is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

+1000

Next thing you know people will say that this is "abusing his rights" [angry]
 
isnt it not ILLEGAL to open carry in mass?? nothing is said about it being ILLEGAL... it is arguably legal in mass although a horrible idea..... if u read chapter 140 ( i think) it says nothign about concealed only.... just a thought (i would NEVER carry openly in mass or tell anyone to do so, i just posted this for argument sake) :)
 
Why would you want to taunt the Police in either state[rolleyes]
At one time any LTC issued for less than Protection of Life and Property or for Carring Money were issued for Target and Hunting which was a restricted license. Therefore carring concealed was illegal. Possession and carry had to be open in your vehical and on your person. The most covered licenses were protection licenses so that you could carry concealed. This all changed in the mid 90's with an All lawful Purpose License where open carry is considered brannishing a handgun.
 
Your hypotheticals aren't very realistic. There is no offense of "resisting a police officer," in either state. And if you were bodily dragged across the border, (a) you haven't committed an offense because you didn't do anything and (b) the officer in your stretched hypo is guilty of kidnapping.

But there is resisting arrest in MA (MGL Ch. 268, Sect. 32b MGL cite) and in NH (RSA 594:5 RSA cite).

I was recently on a jury that had to consider such a charge (in MA, Lowell District court).
 
I'm not trying to taunt anyone. If it's legal for me to do, I want to exercise my rights some day. And if I end up near the border I want to have some confidence that it would be too problematic.

It's legal for me to go up to Vermont and run around buck naked with a concealed handgun. Doesn't mean I'm going to do it, because it's retarded. So is this idea of yours.
 
It's legal for me to go up to Vermont and run around buck naked with a concealed handgun. ---vellnueve
How would that work and wouldn't it hurt? :)

Respectfully,

jkelly
 
vellnueve said:
It's legal for me to go up to Vermont and run around buck naked with a concealed handgun. Doesn't mean I'm going to do it, because it's retarded. So is this idea of yours.

How would that work and wouldn't it hurt? :)

Respectfully,

jkelly

you took the words right out of my mouth..

i've been down to salem(few houndred feet from state line) while carrying and didn't really have issues(no cops called)..(but,still didn't like being that close to MA)[wink]
 
It's legal for me to go up to Vermont and run around buck naked with a concealed handgun. Doesn't mean I'm going to do it, because it's retarded. So is this idea of yours.

I know I shouldn't ask a question because I might not like the answer........ but how do you concealed carry buck naked?

Fee
 
I know I shouldn't ask a question because I might not like the answer........ but how do you concealed carry buck naked?

Fee

I bet Captain Koons knows how to do it, at least with a pocket
gun. [laugh]

koons.jpg





-Mike
 
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Open carrying is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Owning a firearm is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Speaking my mind is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

Refusing an unjustified search is not taunting, it is part of a constitutionally protected right.

While all of this is true, that doesn't mean you won't be arrested and it's doesn't mean you won't have to spend some serious cash defending yourself and it doesn't mean you won't end up right and bankrupt.

I was thinking the same thoughts as the last note on page 3, that this sounds like (the original poster) wants to flip someone off.

We also forget that the constitution as a whole is always subject to interpretation, probably on a word by word basis. While I certainly believe the the nations founding fathers could not conceive of an individual not owning a firearm...virtually every concept in that document has been interpreted both in it's narrowest and broadest sense at one time or another.

Keeping my fingers crossed on the DC gun ban case.
Bill
 
OMG I friggin hate MA, and the masses of brainwashed subjects that live here.....
 
The state line is clearly marked in the Pheasant Lane Mall parking lot. There is a cut in the pavement that has been tarred over. This line runs through several granite surveyors markers. My understanding is that this was done so LEOs would know exactly where the line was when the MA troopers were hassling shoppers at the mall (sales tax evasion).

I told you all that, so I can tell you this: If you have an MA LTC, and no NH LTC, the law would _require_ you to uncover your gun on stepping over that line. Is it the best idea? Probably not, but its legal.

Of course the comment about spending money to defend in court is very valid.

AE
 
The state line is clearly marked in the Pheasant Lane Mall parking lot. There is a cut in the pavement that has been tarred over. This line runs through several granite surveyors markers. My understanding is that this was done so LEOs would know exactly where the line was when the MA troopers were hassling shoppers at the mall (sales tax evasion).

So what did they do... say "PAY ME THE TAX ON THOSE ITEMS! OR ELSE!!!!!" to people that parked on the MA side of the lot?

I'm guessing the porkchop attacking revenue chiuauas at MDOR got
MSP to heckle some citizens for them? [laugh]


-Mike
 
While all of this is true, that doesn't mean you won't be arrested and it's doesn't mean you won't have to spend some serious cash defending yourself and it doesn't mean you won't end up right and bankrupt.

I bet if a LEO arrested me for open carrying in NH I would not be charged with anything and I would end up getting a nice apology letter from the Chief plus some remedial training for that LEO and his/her colleagues.

Edit to add: you know, I'm getting tired of all the "you'll get arrested" crap. I have some errands to run in Salem, I will be within 1/4 mile of the MA border, and I'm not going to bother covering up the XD45 on my hip, I plan on hitting a gas station, a liquor store, and 3 or 4 other stores... I'll back in an hour or two.
 
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Edit to add: you know, I'm getting tired of all the "you'll get arrested" crap. I have some errands to run in Salem, I will be within 1/4 mile of the MA border, and I'm not going to bother covering up the XD45 on my hip, I plan on hitting a gas station, a liquor store, and 3 or 4 other stores... I'll back in an hour or two.

+1 rep point for the no BS attitude! AMEN brother!
 
I bet if a LEO arrested me for open carrying in NH I would not be charged with anything and I would end up getting a nice apology letter from the Chief plus some remedial training for that LEO and his/her colleagues.

Edit to add: you know, I'm getting tired of all the "you'll get arrested" crap. I have some errands to run in Salem, I will be within 1/4 mile of the MA border, and I'm not going to bother covering up the XD45 on my hip, I plan on hitting a gas station, a liquor store, and 3 or 4 other stores... I'll back in an hour or two.

+1, Mark.... I bet not a whole hell of a lot happens. Even if a LEO sees you it probably will only be a bit of dialog with him/her and then you will be on your way. Out of curiousity, let us know what doesn't happen. [grin]

Regardless of whether or not it makes some leering socialist authoritarian moonbat cringe, or whether or not its "tactically sound" open carry is certainly legal, and is generally treated as
such in most of NH.

-Mike
 
Ok, I'm back...... Big thanks to Derek for coming and bailing me out!


















Just kidding [smile]

Total non-event as I expected, I wasn't arrested or detained, my house wasn't raided and my dogs weren't shot while I was gone.

I doubt anyone noticed me carrying but if they did no-one said anything. While out and about I saw 2 marked and 1 unmarked Salem PD cars but did not encounter any officers while outside my car. (I actually saw the unmarked car 3 times as he cruised around looking for speeding out-of-staters [wink])

Here's how I was dressed (just went out the same way I have been dressed all day):

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While out I got gas, bought lottery tickets, refilled 3 tanks of propane, bought dogfood and dog treats, bought fruit and chicken breasts, looked for bargains at CompUSA (closeout prices are still higher than online stores), and bought wine.

Do I plan on open carrying regularly? nope, it gives up a tactical advantage if I were to ever find myself in a bad situation.

Will I continue to fight for the right of any Citizen (or permanent resident) to open carry in New Hampshire? of course.
 
I'm blind because I just washed my eyes out with bleach after seeing a pic of a man in a bathroom.

Yeah I tried calling a couple of famous portrait photographers to take the shot but they needed more than 5 mins notice. [thinking] [wink]

Just be grateful I stopped my darling wife from making the bathroom too girly.
 
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