“De-militarized” rifle

[Martinilover]

I picked up a “De-militarized enfield mk3 from an online vender. In my head, I’m questioning how it’s regarded legally.
The rifle has had its chamber drilled completely through and a steel rod welded in place. The firing pin has also been cut as well as the bolt face has been welded (firing pinhole).
Would MA still regard this as a rifle ? Does it need to be FA10ed?

Alternatively is there a way to de-mill it more (without cutting it in half) to make it a non firearm?

Curious minds want to know.

Originally, I wanted to hang this on the wall I’m not sure I can do that if it’s considered a real firearm.

 

[EMTDAD]

IANAL

MGL 140 S 121 General Law - Part I, Title XX, Chapter 140, Section 121

''Firearm'', a stun gun or a pistol, revolver or other weapon of any description, loaded or unloaded, from which a shot or bullet can be discharged and of which the length of the barrel or barrels is less than 16 inches or 18 inches in the case of a shotgun as originally manufactured; provided, however, that the term firearm shall not include any weapon that is: (i) constructed in a shape that does not resemble a handgun, short-barreled rifle or short-barreled shotgun including, but not limited to, covert weapons that resemble key-chains, pens, cigarette-lighters or cigarette-packages; or (ii) not detectable as a weapon or potential weapon by x-ray machines commonly used at airports or walk- through metal detectors.

 

[Martinilover]

IANAL

MGL 140 S 121 General Law - Part I, Title XX, Chapter 140, Section 121

''Firearm'', a stun gun or a pistol, revolver or other weapon of any description, loaded or unloaded, from which a shot or bullet can be discharged and of which the length of the barrel or barrels is less than 16 inches or 18 inches in the case of a shotgun as originally manufactured; provided, however, that the term firearm shall not include any weapon that is: (i) constructed in a shape that does not resemble a handgun, short-barreled rifle or short-barreled shotgun including, but not limited to, covert weapons that resemble key-chains, pens, cigarette-lighters or cigarette-packages; or (ii) not detectable as a weapon or potential weapon by x-ray machines commonly used at airports or walk- through metal detectors.

So admittedly, a shot cannot be discharged from this. But an argument could be made that with enough effort, it could be converted back to fireable condition. Thoughts?

 

[Bigfudge16]

Is it physically capable of firing a bullet? If not then the answer is definitively no. I wouldn't even question this any further.

 

[Bigfudge16]

So admittedly, a shot cannot be discharged from this. But an argument could be made that with enough effort, it could be converted back to fireable condition. Thoughts?

same could be said about a weapon with a leaded barrel. However since its not able to function as a firearm its not considered one.

 

[EMTDAD]

not a lawyer, but look at other non-operable firearms in the classified ads here..

there are others here with lots more experience than I have..

personally, with it welded like you say it is, it's a prop... and I wouldn't see why it would have to be stored according to firearms law.

 

[Rick O'Shea]

Lol hang it up like a useless tool. You broke no laws buying it what's your question?

 

[Martinilover]

Lol hang it up like a useless tool. You broke no laws buying it what's your question?

Vendor did require FFL for sale. Not sure if that’s to limit to liability.
My questions ate in the original post.

 

[LakeTrout]

So admittedly, a shot cannot be discharged from this. But an argument could be made that with enough effort, it could be converted back to fireable condition. Thoughts?

We can convert an I beam to fire a shot with enough effort. I would hang it up if I wanted to. But I do not know for sure the legality.

 

[powerman]

I'd have a plan to put it into serviceable condition, may never happen, but you should have a plan.
its a wall hanger as is.

 

[Martinilover]

I'd have a plan to put it into serviceable condition, may never happen, but you should have a plan.
its a wall hanger as is.

I’m thinking the opposite I want to make it less serviceable. Perhaps even fill the barrel with something - lead ? epoxy? Or drill more holes in the receiver/ chamber.
I want there to be no question

 

[LakeTrout]

I'd have a plan to put it into serviceable condition, may never happen, but you should have a plan.
its a wall hanger as is.

He wants it to be a wall hanger

 

[Bigfudge16]

I’m thinking the opposite I want to make it less serviceable. Perhaps even fill the barrel with something - lead ? epoxy? Or drill more holes in the receiver/ chamber.
I want there to be no question

Bend it in half, or better yet cut it in half and hang it in 2 pieces

 

[Martinilover]

Bend it in half, or better yet cut it in half and hang it in 2 pieces

 

[jakeroub]

I’ve got several deactivated 1903 and 1903a3’s. My FFL-03 was required to obtain from out of state, but I did not “register” via the efa-10 portal. If I should choose to reactivate them, then I would enter into the portal.

Oh, and if I were to disassemble them, then I would log them out of my bound book.

 

[Drix]

So admittedly, a shot cannot be discharged from this. But an argument could be made that with enough effort, it could be converted back to fireable condition. Thoughts?

With enough effort a ceramic brick could be converted to fireable condition.

 

[Broc Tuah]

So admittedly, a shot cannot be discharged from this. But an argument could be made that with enough effort, it could be converted back to fireable condition. Thoughts?

Anything can be converted to fireable condition with enough effort. Even a pipe bought at Home Depot or the exhaust in your car.

 

[Broc Tuah]

I’m thinking the opposite I want to make it less serviceable. Perhaps even fill the barrel with something - lead ? epoxy? Or drill more holes in the receiver/ chamber.
I want there to be no question

 

[Martinilover]

I’ve got several deactivated 1903 and 1903a3’s. My FFL-03 was required to obtain from out of state, but I did not “register” via the efa-10 portal. If I should choose to reactivate them, then I would enter into the portal.

Oh, and if I were to disassemble them, then I would log them out of my bound book.

I would love to find it deactivated 03A3. Where did you find yours? Or I could help remove them from your book

 

[jakeroub]

1903A3 DRILL RIFLE

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When I purchased them several years ago, the price was lower. Rumor is that they trade new stocks to the CMP for them.

 

[Maxrobot]

Who made it and when? I have had a couple of No.1 Mk III rifles with ww1 dates. Fascinating rifles. Here is a WW1 M1898 Mauser and a Short Lee Enfield Mk III* both with bayonets and slings..

 

[Martinilover]

Who made it and when? I have had a couple of No.1 Mk III rifles with ww1 dates. Fascinating rifles. Here is a WW1 M1898 Mauser and a Short Lee Enfield Mk II both with bayonets and slings..View attachment 966897

How can I tell who made it ? It was rebuilt in 1958 and when they do this it’s re stamped.

 

[AmeriKHAN]

Just start calling it a "deescalated rifle" and you're all good.

 

[Bigfudge16]

Just start calling it a "deescalated rifle" and you're all good.

If recommend calling it a "marital aid" no one will question that

 

[Maxrobot]

There's a lot on the internet about British rifle markings. Is it stamped RFI? That would be a factory refit. Otherwise the part under the bolt handle should have the data.

 

[LittleCalm]

Isn’t the correct term “demilled”?

 

[Marty McFly]

Is pacifist rifle the opposite or assault rifle? Is that what we are trying to make?