7/7/18 Haiti Protests - Fires, Roadblocks, Armed Individuals = US Citizens Told to Shelter in Place

Haiti has not been a "peaceful, safe" country for Americans to visit in at least 50 yrs.
 
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I remember one with David Spade (iirc) saying, "Yeah I was gonna wear a condom, but then I thought, "Hey, when am I ever going to be in Haiti again?"."
 
I know folks who have done the mission trip to Haiti thing. Now, I am in no way speaking at all negatively about their good intentions or anything like that, because they all have good intentions and are wonderful folks. However. Here's the thing... they each spend (or get donations) thousands of dollars in order to get there for a week. Once there, they do things like hammer nails (with no experience and for the first time in their lives) into a partially constructed house that the Americans are trying to build for someone. That sounds fine, right? But the whole time, the locals are standing around doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! Why couldn't the locals have been hammering their own nails??? The locals are probably stronger and more capable of withstanding the heat too. Okay, sure, they may be so hopelessly poor that they have no money to buy any supplies nor any idea how to start building a society that is capable of producing enough value to earn those supplies. Then, why not send them supplies so that they can hammer their own nails? The value of one American's time for a week there is a few thousand bucks, to do manual labor. Nothing wrong with manual labor, but my time there is worth thousands of bucks. But, a local hammering for a week? That's worth about $5. Okay, perhaps they are so down the toilet that they don't even know how to build a simple house so they can't just be left alone with supplies with a note that says "git r done!"... seems that it would be more effective to have a few experts go down there to teach them what to do. But, actually fly down there doing the manual work for them? Sigh!
 
Prepper said:
I know folks who have done the mission trip to Haiti thing. Now, I am in no way speaking at all negatively about their good intentions or anything like that, because they all have good intentions and are wonderful folks. However. Here's the thing... they each spend (or get donations) thousands of dollars in order to get there for a week. Once there, they do things like hammer nails (with no experience and for the first time in their lives) into a partially constructed house that the Americans are trying to build for someone. That sounds fine, right? But the whole time, the locals are standing around doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! Why couldn't the locals have been hammering their own nails??? The locals are probably stronger and more capable of withstanding the heat too. Okay, sure, they may be so hopelessly poor that they have no money to buy any supplies nor any idea how to start building a society that is capable of producing enough value to earn those supplies. Then, why not send them supplies so that they can hammer their own nails? The value of one American's time for a week there is a few thousand bucks, to do manual labor. Nothing wrong with manual labor, but my time there is worth thousands of bucks. But, a local hammering for a week? That's worth about $5. Okay, perhaps they are so down the toilet that they don't even know how to build a simple house so they can't just be left alone with supplies with a note that says "git r done!"... seems that it would be more effective to have a few experts go down there to teach them what to do. But, actually fly down there doing the manual work for them? Sigh!
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If you hand these folks a box of nails, hammers, and a pile of wood then come back the next day it will be gone and they will have big warm smiles because all the families will be eating well for the next week. I’m serious and have been in the trenches of Hispaniola so I know of what I speak...
 
Prepper said:
I know folks who have done the mission trip to Haiti thing. Now, I am in no way speaking at all negatively about their good intentions or anything like that, because they all have good intentions and are wonderful folks. However. Here's the thing... they each spend (or get donations) thousands of dollars in order to get there for a week. Once there, they do things like hammer nails (with no experience and for the first time in their lives) into a partially constructed house that the Americans are trying to build for someone. That sounds fine, right? But the whole time, the locals are standing around doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! Why couldn't the locals have been hammering their own nails??? The locals are probably stronger and more capable of withstanding the heat too. Okay, sure, they may be so hopelessly poor that they have no money to buy any supplies nor any idea how to start building a society that is capable of producing enough value to earn those supplies. Then, why not send them supplies so that they can hammer their own nails? The value of one American's time for a week there is a few thousand bucks, to do manual labor. Nothing wrong with manual labor, but my time there is worth thousands of bucks. But, a local hammering for a week? That's worth about $5. Okay, perhaps they are so down the toilet that they don't even know how to build a simple house so they can't just be left alone with supplies with a note that says "git r done!"... seems that it would be more effective to have a few experts go down there to teach them what to do. But, actually fly down there doing the manual work for them? Sigh!
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I know some people who do this every year. But I think the group they work with has the people who will get the house help too. The people who get a house also get a food box with enough food for a couple of months. They noticed the people would run out of food and found out they would share the food with their less fortunate neighbors. They couldn't really say anything about it since they are a church group and they decided it was a kind thing to do.

They usually travel with their supplies of have to notify someone when it is coming or it will get stolen as soon as the plane lands. Everyone is corrupt.
Since there is no incentive to keep anything clean they just throw their garbage everywhere. They have destroyed nearly everything in their own country. First place I think of when I hear the term shithole country. Even the Dominicans hate them.
 
Nick Fury said:
If you hand these folks a box of nails, hammers, and a pile of wood then come back the next day it will be gone and they will have big warm smiles because all the families will be eating well for the next week. I’m serious and have been in the trenches of Hispaniola so I know of what I speak...
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Sounds about right, sadly.

While I never went to Haiti, I did (for reasons I don't care to explain, because they're stupid reasons) have an apartment in St Kitts for a few months. The locals were always in a continuous state of attempting to steal anything the moment the opportunity arises. You don't leave your crap unattended on the sand and then go swim in the water... they'd steal it, even if its a rental chair or a towel. So, someone has to stay behind to watch everyone else's stuff. All the apartments had solid doors with 8 locks, and window bars... that didn't stop the thieves though... they would use long poles with a grabber hand thingy at the end, and just reach the pole between the bars and grab something off of the table. I sold a mini laptop to someone else there for $200, and the next day it was stolen from them because they left it on a table 15 feet from the window, but the thief used this grabber bar to just reach in and get it. If your door is unlocked because you are there at the time, and you just rush over into the bathroom to take a piss, they would sneak in to grab something and run back out again before you noticed. So, you always had to lock the door the moment you stepped away. They were pretty clever too, hiding where they could not be seen then they'd just pop out of nowhere at the moment the opportunity arises. If the locals put as much effort into working as they did thinking of clever theft schemes, they'd be rich.

One time I went to the beach and observed this beach bar they were building. It was some kind of open air beach bar with no walls, and they were putting beds out on the sand (huh??) and stuff like that. Anyway, I observed the workers for a while. There were 12 guys. 10 of them were standing there doing nothing. The other 2 guys had a board up against the side of the beams they were nailing it to. One was hammering. The other was "helping" by "holding" the board to the beams, even though it was already secured enough that no one really needed to do any holding. And the other 10 just standing there. I was wondering if it was some kind of lunch break, but it wasn't... I watched for a while and there was never more than one of them at a time actually doing anything (and doing it slowly). I had a discussion with a local there and they told me they had been working on this bar for 5 years! And it was half done. Well, good luck with that... a hurricane comes through about once every 10 years to destroy all the beach bars.
 
If all people are equal, how come you can nuke the Japanese or kill 20 million Chinese, and two decades later they’ll have built skyscrapers out of the rubble.

This is the great fallacy of Progressivism, that everyone is equal.
 

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