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5. Destroy — Police officers and agencies should consider the following:a. Carry off duty. No one would tell a firefighter who has a fire extinguisher in his trunk that he’s crazy or paranoid.
b. Equip every cop in America with a patrol rifle. One chief of police, upon getting rifles for all his officers once said, “If an active killer strikes in my town, the response time will be measured in feet per second.”
c. Put smoke grenades in the trunk of every cop car in America. Any infantryman who needs to attack across open terrain or perform a rescue under fire deploys a smoke grenade. A fire extinguisher will do a decent job in some cases, but a smoke grenade is designed to perform the function.
d. Have a “go-to-war bag” filled with lots of loaded magazines and supplies for tactical combat casualty care.
e. Use helicopters. Somewhere in your county you probably have one or more of the following: medevac, media, private, national guard, coast guard rotors.
f. Employ the crew-served, continuous-feed, weapon you already have available to you (a firehouse) by integrating the fire service into your active shooter training. It is virtually impossible for a killer to put well-placed shots on target while also being blasted with water at 300 pounds per square inch.
g. Armed citizens can help. Think United 93. Whatever your personal take on gun control, it is all but certain that a killer set on killing is more likely to attack a target where the citizens are unarmed, rather than one where they are likely to encounter an armed citizen response.
How hard will it be for a shooter to get the drop on a bored school cop? Just shoot him while he checks fb on his phone.
this is going to be true of absolutely everyone. Unless you constantly drill, and let's be honest, most people who carry, including professionally! do not, the 99% of the time that nothing happens informs your expectations and when/if something does happen, whatever scant training you have will have to carry you through.
Frankly, the armed or unarmed guard at the door or gate serves two simple purposes: to deter, and failing that, to raise the alarm. This was true when I managed unarmed civilian security guards, and this was true when we had troops deployed at remote posts.
Yup. Deterrence doesn't work for school shooters, just another body to step over. The advantage of armed teachers(I know that ain't going to fly some places and some places no teachers will step up) is the shooter not knowing who is armed. If we get cops in schools it is going to be the chiefs pedophile nephew no one wants to work with that draws the gig. No one wins.
Yup. Deterrence doesn't work for school shooters, just another body to step over.
Might I ask what happened to you have this extreme view of security guards?
Active shooters are not opportunistic criminals, they are not waiting for the clerk to be distracted to pocket a candy bar. Silly little badges, security talky talk procedures all that cute stuff doesn't matter. Can you breach the door(or just go through a window) and shoot people? You can't defend against that and still get to see the sun.
wow, history fail.Yup. Deterrence doesn't work for school shooters, just another body to step over..
It is all security theatre. If your intent is to end up dead after killing a bunch of people there is no deterrence against that, and really no defense. Even if you locked up schools tight, someone could just shoot up a summer camp(Norway.) Or a football game or a Chucky Cheese.
History says you are wrong... There is a defense, confront the shooter. When that happens the killing stops one way or another.It is all security theatre. If your intent is to end up dead after killing a bunch of people there is no deterrence against that, and really no defense. Even if you locked up schools tight, someone could just shoot up a summer camp(Norway.) Or a football game or a Chucky Cheese.
Benner gave us some statistics about active shooter/killers in the United States: 98 percent act alone, 75 percent will have more than one gun, and 90 percent will commit suicide at the scene of their killings.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/cc...es-active-shooterkiller-course-for-civilians/
History says you are wrong... There is a defense, confront the shooter. When that happens the killing stops one way or another.
Just one example of which I speak:
I won't pretend to understand the mind of someone who could do such a thing, but it seems logical to assume that in choosing locations they presume are unarmed and terminating their rampage at the first sign of confrontation that a deranged as they are, they are also not prepared for a "fight" and in choosing a soft target, they are not confident in their advantage either.
I am not alone in that conclusion, again see current active shooter doctrine which has shifted to an aggressive intervention approach rather than surround and contain.
I am not alone in that conclusion, again see current active shooter doctrine which has shifted to an aggressive intervention approach rather than surround and contain.
this was written well brfore sandy hook...May 05, 2010
g. Armed citizens can help. Think United 93. Whatever your personal take on gun control, it is all but certain that a killer set on killing is more likely to attack a target where the citizens are unarmed, rather than one where they are likely to encounter an armed citizen response.
Security is often done in layers. Think about securing a vehicle:
1. Take out keys, lock doors and roll up windows.
2. Add steering wheel look.
3. Add vehicle alarm.
4. Add ignition kill switch.
5. Park car in locked garage.
6. Purchase insurance policy against loss.
Nothing is totally fool-proof. But when a layered approach is taken, e.g. single-point entries, cameras, authentication protocol (e.g. "buzzed" front door), abolishing GFZs, adding uniformed security personal, adding police resource officer, etc. is a layered approach for student safety.
Again, it's just like the fire safety measures taken, as mentioned in the article.
I went to a LEO/MIL day long seminar that LTC Grossman did at SigArms Academy in '02. At the last minute, they opened up the last few slots to civvies. Hands down, the best 8 hour training of my life. I have been trying to see him again since, but no dice.
His website, killology.com has his calendar. If you can, you must go see him. Electrifying in person.