Airbnb that allows target shooting on property

[Mark from ?]

A friend of mine shot a deer on his one acre lot in Essex CT with a bow. It ran into a neighbors yard and bled out while gasping and kicking at the sky. All in view of the neighbor.

He lost his mind. Ha.

Then my friend hung the deer outside the garage. Ha,

We attempted not to have that happen. In bowhunting 10 years there and killing well over 200 deer between 3-4 of us. We had one issue with a landowner.
There are tricks to not have the deer end up in a bad place. Most of the time you know where the deer will head after you put an arrow thru it.

If you know it will head in a suspect direction you simply don't shoot. Or if its a bad time of day like when kids are getting on the bus...you pass the shot. Only broadside shots at lungs where the arrow will pass thru and not be left in the deer. Figure...people see car hit deer all the time, one with an arrow in it is a different story.

The reality is, before 7am, no one is around and from 6am-7am....you can kill a deer and get it in and out, or at least gutted and under your stand. Then after 8 everyone is pretty much gone to NY city to work, kids in school, mom at the gym or whatever social calendar appt she has. So now its killing time again. I killed many deer that ended up on other properties and even in neighbors driveways and they never knew about it....because I shot it when they werent home, went in quick and scooped it up and gutted it back at the stand. I'll admit thank god this was before all the ring cameras and all that shit.

And hunting like this wasn't the norm, we had big coastal properties and contiguous acres, or a lot of old people that didn't GAF that we didn't have to worry about either...but honestly, deer were easier to kill on the small properties because it funneled them right under your stand every time.

Anyway, eventually slob hunters came in and didn't know what they were doing and screwed it all up for the most part...that's when I stopped because I started getting blame for shit I didn't do.....no thanks.

 

[Asaltweapon]

I think those laws are mainly pertaining to hunting. One really should get permission before target practicing before. I'm pretty sure there is a previous thread on this. What would you be shooting at? If it's a large piece of land in the northern states there's a good chance land is in tree growth status or similar and you could really be doing a lot of damage that you may be found responsible for.

If you start dumping jacketed rounds into someone’s tree farm stock you are risking their investment.
Saws don’t like steel parts buried in trees.

 

[LuvDog]

I know there are VRBO/AirBNB out west that have home ranges. For places up here, It probably just makes sense to ask. And hunting on a property is a bit different than a range day. A few blasts hunting is different than a few hundred blasts.

 

[Mark from ?]

I know there are VRBO/AirBNB out west that have home ranges. For places up here, It probably just makes sense to ask. And hunting on a property is a bit different than a range day. A few blasts hunting is different than a few hundred blasts.

Anywhere really...I bowhunted a place in KY that had a 100 acres, I asked him about some target shooting, but the guy really didn't want me shooting up the place with my guns because he was rifle hunting it the next week.

That said...I heard gunshots all week during bow season.....so Im not sure if they even care about seasons around there or they just take deer when they want to. Or they are target shooting, sighting in for next week, or shooting coyotes.

He had absolutely no problem with me taking an AR into by stand and shooting coyotes anytime while bowhunting, and said if I didn't fill a buck tag to take the AR and kill a doe the last day. I didn't bother with that as I didn't need the meat.

 

[dcmdon]

We attempted not to have that happen. In bowhunting 10 years there and killing well over 200 deer between 3-4 of us. We had one issue with a landowner.
There are tricks to not have the deer end up in a bad place. Most of the time you know where the deer will head after you put an arrow thru it.

If you know it will head in a suspect direction you simply don't shoot. Or if its a bad time of day like when kids are getting on the bus...you pass the shot. Only broadside shots at lungs where the arrow will pass thru and not be left in the deer. Figure...people see car hit deer all the time, one with an arrow in it is a different story.

The reality is, before 7am, no one is around and from 6am-7am....you can kill a deer and get it in and out, or at least gutted and under your stand. Then after 8 everyone is pretty much gone to NY city to work, kids in school, mom at the gym or whatever social calendar appt she has. So now its killing time again. I killed many deer that ended up on other properties and even in neighbors driveways and they never knew about it....because I shot it when they werent home, went in quick and scooped it up and gutted it back at the stand. I'll admit thank god this was before all the ring cameras and all that shit.

And hunting like this wasn't the norm, we had big coastal properties and contiguous acres, or a lot of old people that didn't GAF that we didn't have to worry about either...but honestly, deer were easier to kill on the small properties because it funneled them right under your stand every time.

Anyway, eventually slob hunters came in and didn't know what they were doing and screwed it all up for the most part...that's when I stopped because I started getting blame for shit I didn't do.....no thanks.

The neighbor refused to let him into the yard to retrieve the deer. My friend called the cops who called a conservation officer who told the land owner that if he wanted to gut and keep the deer, he could have it.

But if he wasn't going to make use of the deer, he had to let my friend take it.

My friend's suburban hunting was more about wildlife management than hunting. He hunts a lot on private land that he has access to.
After this, he went over to the dark side and just decided to hunt in an ethical manner that happened to be illegal. (I refuse to use the word poach, so much hunting that is perfectly ethical, but is no longer illegal, the word has lost all meaning.

He hunts in season, taking females primarily (remember the goal is population reduction). He uses a .22 bolt action rifle from a 2nd floor window very very early in the morning. It is safe, if he misses the bullet is in the ground within 5 ft because of the downward angle.

He has markers in his yard and won't shoot more than 50 ft. head shots only. Every deer he's taken this way has dropped where it stood.

He's actually doing the neighbors a favor. The area is heavily wooded but not wooded enough for legal firearms hunting. There are tons of deer and as a result a LOT of Lyme disease in people and pets. This town is within 10 miles of Lyme CT. Where Lyme disease was discovered and where it is still heavily infested.

Natural predator populations are kept low because people are afraid of coyotes. CT allows trapping of coyotes, so there is pressure even in suburban areas.

 

[dcmdon]

I think those laws are mainly pertaining to hunting. One really should get permission before target practicing before. I'm pretty sure there is a previous thread on this. What would you be shooting at? If it's a large piece of land in the northern states there's a good chance land is in tree growth status or similar and you could really be doing a lot of damage that you may be found responsible for.

Hunting laws are separate from shooting laws.

For example, CT hunting laws require 500 ft, except for waterfowl hunting in tidal areas where it's 250 ft.

But their only law regarding target shooting simply says that it must be safe.

Sec. 53-203. Unlawful discharge of firearms. Any person who intentionally, negligently or carelessly discharges any firearm in such a manner as to be likely to cause bodily injury or death to persons or domestic animals, or the wanton destruction of property, shall be guilty of a class C misdemeanor.

The above citation is the only state restriction on shooting in CT. Obviously towns may pass their own restrictions. But they aren't very common once you get out of the cities.

I am completely unfamiliar with NH hunting laws or regs. But the NH law I cited specifically applies to any discharge of firearms. Not just hunting.

 

[Mark from ?]

The neighbor refused to let him into the yard to retrieve the deer. My friend called the cops who called a conservation officer who told the land owner that if he wanted to gut and keep the deer, he could have it.

But if he wasn't going to make use of the deer, he had to let my friend take it.

My friend's suburban hunting was more about wildlife management than hunting. He hunts a lot on private land that he has access to.
After this, he went over to the dark side and just decided to hunt in an ethical manner that happened to be illegal. (I refuse to use the word poach, so much hunting that is perfectly ethical, but is no longer illegal, the word has lost all meaning.

He hunts in season, taking females primarily (remember the goal is population reduction). He uses a .22 bolt action rifle from a 2nd floor window very very early in the morning. It is safe, if he misses the bullet is in the ground within 5 ft because of the downward angle.

He has markers in his yard and won't shoot more than 50 ft. head shots only. Every deer he's taken this way has dropped where it stood.

He's actually doing the neighbors a favor. The area is heavily wooded but not wooded enough for legal firearms hunting. There are tons of deer and as a result a LOT of Lyme disease in people and pets. This town is within 10 miles of Lyme CT. Where Lyme disease was discovered and where it is still heavily infested.

Natural predator populations are kept low because people are afraid of coyotes. CT allows trapping of coyotes, so there is pressure even in suburban areas.

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Wont get into much more here...but landowner in CT has first right of refusal to any deer that ends up on their property.....if they dont take it and the deer is taken legally the deer goes to the hunter.

Of course you can cirumvent that by never letting deer go off your hunting property like shooting in the head with a .22.

But bowhunting is almost impossible as a perfectly double lunged deer could go 100 yards at full run easily before it passes out and dies from blood loss to the brain. Typically the larger the deer the further it goes.

I hunted in Lyme on a bigger private property....never even saw a deer in several sits, found it kinda a waste of time. Certain there were deer there but not crazy overpopulated. My cameras said it wasn't worth my time. Lets not forget....many insurance companies are lobbying the state for as few deer as possible to save them money.

And somehow people in the Northeast see a few deer they think they are way overpopulated. Even down here I see a few deer a week, way more than in MA, and the local 3000 acre WMA gives out 25 gun permits a year....on state land. Ft Myers airport...loaded with deer.

Further south in Fairfield county I had much better luck, even some state land....killed a lot of deer on Centennial Watershed hunts, back then, they had probably 40 per square mile. Now...probably 20. Bowhunters and coyotes have moved in and thinned. Most of my buddies don't go down there anymore.

 

[Dave @ Villen Tactical]

You own the place? I alway want to rent a place in the wood for a few days to do a bit of camping and shooting with friends.

Yes, my wife and I own it.

 

[dcmdon]

Wont get into much more here...but landowner in CT has first right of refusal to any deer that ends up on their property.....if they dont take it and the deer is taken legally the deer goes to the hunter.

Of course you can cirumvent that by never letting deer go off your hunting property like shooting in the head with a .22.

But bowhunting is almost impossible as a perfectly double lunged deer could go 100 yards at full run easily before it passes out and dies from blood loss to the brain. Typically the larger the deer the further it goes.

I hunted in Lyme on a bigger private property....never even saw a deer in several sits, found it kinda a waste of time. Certain there were deer there but not crazy overpopulated. My cameras said it wasn't worth my time. Lets not forget....many insurance companies are lobbying the state for as few deer as possible to save them money.

And somehow people in the Northeast see a few deer they think they are way overpopulated. Even down here I see a few deer a week, way more than in MA, and the local 3000 acre WMA gives out 25 gun permits a year....on state land. Ft Myers airport...loaded with deer.

Further south in Fairfield county I had much better luck, even some state land....killed a lot of deer on Centennial Watershed hunts, back then, they had probably 40 per square mile. Now...probably 20. Bowhunters and coyotes have moved in and thinned. Most of my buddies don't go down there anymore.

I agree with everything you said.

But don't forget that the reason Lyme isn't overpopulated is because it's rural enough so that hunting can be done legally. I used to deer hunt in Lyme overlooking the CT river. It was gorgeous. I never got anything there either. But it was a great way to spend an early morning.

Now let's compare Lyme to Essex, right across the river. Essex is heavily residential. They have had 2 acre zoning since roughly 1970. So you have a TON of wooded area between houses, but you can't hunt with a firearm. Essex is thick with deer.

The CT river valley is one of my favorite places on the planet. I duck hunted Selden for 25 years. It's just gorgeous.

 

[Mark from ?]

I agree with everything you said.

But don't forget that the reason Lyme isn't overpopulated is because it's rural enough so that hunting can be done legally. I used to deer hunt in Lyme overlooking the CT river. It was gorgeous. I never got anything there either. But it was a great way to spend an early morning.

Now let's compare Lyme to Essex, right across the river. Essex is heavily residential. They have had 2 acre zoning since roughly 1970. So you have a TON of wooded area between houses, but you can't hunt with a firearm. Essex is thick with deer.

The CT river valley is one of my favorite places on the planet. I duck hunted Selden for 25 years. It's just gorgeous.

Agree. If you really want to arrow a deer, towns with 2-3 acre properties are edge cover mecca's for deer. These towns literally create deer problems by zoning that way.

Add to that no one hunts or thinks of hunting them, and its limited if at all to bowhunting if allowed. Deer funnels galore...caused by lots of electric dog fences where deer know dogs cant go, so they walk the same trails every time. And people having little lawns with lots of patches of oak filled woods behind them create food big time, travel routes, and when the oaks aren't dropping.... the shrubs, landscape and lawn, are always there to eat.

Ive been to the Castle in that area, around Selden Neck and took my dad on the boat ride in the fall. Its beautiful.