He said something to the effect of, "Yeah I've been thinking of buying a p239. They give these to the State Troopers but they don't have any serial numbers on them so they can plant or drop them."
HUH?? WTF?? Damn.
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He said something to the effect of, "Yeah I've been thinking of buying a p239. They give these to the State Troopers but they don't have any serial numbers on them so they can plant or drop them."
I would have offered the guy $200.
My favorite was when I went to a Bass Pro Shops in Maryland. I was looking at a few different rifles and the guy asked me where I was from. I said Massachusetts and his joking reply as he laughed was "I didn't think you people in Mass could still own guns"
Years later I heard that from someone else when I was ordering something on the phone. Must be some sort of joke floating around out there at our expense.
Um...yeah, ya think? This State is a friggin joke.
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Like you didn't know that.
I think the best I've ever heard was here in Plymouth at M&Ms/Plymouth Bay Outfitters....however it was NOT an employee.
I was browsing closeby as a customer was looking at a couple of pistols on top of one of the pistol cases. He said something to the effect of, "Yeah I've been thinking of buying a p239. They give these to the State Troopers but they don't have any serial numbers on them so they can plant or drop them."
I'll bring mine in to show them this week.
Here's one...
Me: That's a cool preban AR.
Employee: Yup, you can only use preban mags in a preban rifle.
Me: Really? So, I can't use my preban 30 round mags in a postban AR?
Employee: Nope
Ding! Some places get it, some don't.Maybe he did, but you're going to remember that and go back, aren't you? Not to mention that you just told the world that they think of the customer first. You can't buy that kind of advertising for $35!!
How did the guy get screwed? The gun store didn't want the gun and gave the guy what is known as a "f*** off" quote. The guy didn't have to take it; there are other gun stores around. The guy was mad because he'd made a bad purchase and wanted the gun store to get him out of his own bad decision. Not the gun store's responsibility. It would certainly have been nice of the store to take it back, and a store like that is to be commended. But to say they 'screwed' the guy is just weird.
I would've offered him $50 because he let his wife push him around.
Wipped.^ [sic] I would have kept the pistol and sold the wife.
The MSP must have really screwed up at least one order of P239's because the ones that the guys and gals have in my office have serial numbers on them. They must have gotten the rejects or something .
Mark L.
That's great. Pathetic that this can happen in our screwed-up state, but it's still funny.Owner: But he's dead.
Customer: Well so is this gun sale!
Depends on how hot the wife is.The gun has better resale value.
The dealer is under no obligation to prove this, since the crime of non-compliant sale is one committed by the dealer, not the buyer. This is relevant to the buyer only if they want to be able to sell the gun through a MA shop at a future date.Customer: Well then you should be able to provided documentation to me that he had it registered prior to 98 then.
The dealer is under no obligation to prove this, since the crime of non-compliant sale is one committed by the dealer, not the buyer. This is relevant to the buyer only if they want to be able to sell the gun through a MA shop at a future date.
Ray: Wait... are you a member at Riverside?
Me: (thinking I'm going to be let in on a secret) yeah...?
Ray: Ok, what you do is... go over to the trap field, and if there's nobody there,
sometimes the clays don't break and you can pick up the ones that are still good!
Me: [speechless]
Ray: Yeah, it's a great way to get free clays!
Me: Um... yeah... good idea. I'll see you later, Ray.
I could be wrong, but that seems counter to everything I've read here.
I've also heard this same owner tell customers that all transfers from out of state, by Federal law, could only be from an FFL dealer to an FFL dealer. IIRC, this is not totally true, especially in the case of C&R firearms. Again, I could be wrong.
It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of dealers in MA simply don't give a crap about the MA AWB, when it comes to magazines. I have to agree that handing the customer a felony in a bag isn't exactly a nice thing to do, though. laugh] IMO "Buyer Beware" is a universal maxim people need to adopt with those issues, regardless of the
dealer.
It depends on the nature of the transfer. For starters, an FFL can virtually accept an inbound transfer from just about anywhere, at least per federal law, including from non-FFL dealers. The sticky parts come in when the FFL transfers a gun to a non FFL, then you have all kinds of fun rules that apply.
Most of the time a dealer does FFL > FFL transfers it's because its a policy of their own, not because the law
requires it.
-Mike
So unlike Mass., you can buy whatever you want--you just can't carry it.
True. That also brings up an etiquette question: should I just keep my big mouth shut and let the customer complete the transaction? It's not my shop, and technically none of my business what other people do, but I'd hate to see the customer get jammed up over something like this.
That was my understanding, and I have done transactions like that in the past. I can understand if a dealer only wants to accept transfers from other dealers as a business decision, but I wish they'd just say that outright. Why the malarkey of "Federal law?"
I'm just curious as to what others would have done in this situation.
depending on where you live... and who your COP is... you may not be allowed to carry here either.
RE: Mags... just how do they expect to prove whether it was made pre or post?
My favorite gun store is Blue Northern in Ayer. One of the many reasons why it's my favorite store is that sometimes when you ask one of the guys - either Bill, Ron, Tom, Billy, or Dave- a question, they'll say, "I don't know". Followed up by, "I'll find out for you."
Imagine that? People at a gun store that actually won't knowingly give you bad advice.