ChevyGuy91
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Everyone will be a looter and everyone will be shooting at everyone.
I think I saw this movie...
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Everyone will be a looter and everyone will be shooting at everyone.
After the 1,2,3,4 how much does you pack weight?
Can we switch gears on this thread for a moment? what bags are you guys running? my current bag is an ultralight hiker and with food and supplies for 3+ days I am around 25 lbs, I want to set up more of a get out of work to a get to my base of operations bag, something that will make do if I have to be out overnight but light enough to enable me to cover serious ground in a short time, i.e. 20 miles in 20 hours. it may not sound like much but if the SHTF I would rather take a cautious safe route than doing a run and gun solo
For shelter consider hammocks: ...allows you to see out almost 360 degrees around you when in it.
I have a one have you ever tried to sleep in one late fall through early spring?
Can we switch gears on this thread for a moment? what bags are you guys running? my current bag is an ultralight hiker and with food and supplies for 3+ days I am around 25 lbs, I want to set up more of a get out of work to a get to my base of operations bag, something that will make do if I have to be out overnight but light enough to enable me to cover serious ground in a short time, i.e. 20 miles in 20 hours. it may not sound like much but if the SHTF I would rather take a cautious safe route than doing a run and gun solo
Actually 20 miles in 20 hours is within achievable. Of course type of terrain is a major driver, but if you are determined and will have opportunity to rest for a few days after getting home – here in NE, 20 in 20 is doable. Check the map for potential water crossings. If usual bridge is out or not accessible, 20 miles could turn into 200 miles.
As for the bag - I have some no brand name leather bag bought forever ago. Inside is a pair of well broken in hiking boots; two sets of wool socks; silk base layer top & bottom; nylon packable rain pants; fleece mid layer top; down packable sweater vest; fleece beanie; fleece blanket; cheese cloth; 2 mil clear plastic sheeting; 80lb fishing braided line; duck tape; fire starter kit; multi-tool; head lamp; compass; SS canteen with internal filter; few Imodium and Tylenol pills; dry fruit bars; honey vials; homemade granola; canned herring and mackerel. I might be forgetting something, but listed everything I remember in it. And the whole thing is a bit over 10lb with most of what is inside the bag will be on me and not in the bag. There are few things not listed, but in the car and some will be taken e.g. all my cars have a well sharpen shovel + sheath.
Some of these things are deceptively simple, but they are all tested to work as intended. Many are multi-use and home modified. The blanket been reinforced with cord so I can use it for warmth, as a hammock, towel, ground cover, bag, etc. Plastic sheet can be used as rain cover, tent, rain catch, water carry, etc. Honey can be used as energy booster, nutrition, tea, cut cover, etc. I made my own SS can so I can boil water in the open fire and drink through filter, but its similar concept to this www.uscanteen.com/RedH2Only-idv-92-2.html In short, you can buy most of what I have premade and it will have fewer uses and cost major $$$$, or just use simple items slightly adjusted to successfully achieve your objectives with fraction of the weight and cost.
I like the hammock for certain situations but it isn't as light weight as I would like. I am thinking about switching the tarp for a Nemo Equipment Meta 1P
I own a Hennessy Hammock and that is far from true.
I slept in mine during the early fall (and not this weird warm one) and needed extra insulation under me to keep warm. The open space under the hammock really contributes to convection heat loss.
If you root around on Hammock Forums you can see where people add quilts to the underside of their hammock for insulation and sleep in them all through the winter.
Hammocks are really comfortable to sleep in if you are a back or side sleeper.
The drawback is when you are in a hammock you can't do much in there; cooking, drying gear, and prepping for the next day all become really problematic.
For fall / winter, I prefer a Super-Tarp or a Tipi.
Cheese cloth is one of those must have items. Jesus... if I could find that shit anywhere when I'm pulling out some heirloom recipe that my grandma passed down from her third edition of the Laura Ingels Wilder Frontier Cookbook, I'd be golden with my inlaws at Thanksgiving. That's a serious put up or shut up SHTF scenario. Just like being short of fishing line, canned herring,mackerel, and honey vials.
What model Hennessey do you have....
Also on the insulation side they make models with a dual layer that you can add an insulation layer to for winter use. If you're only using the single layer base then it's not gonna work for winter in NE.
I don't recall the model (Exp. Asym?), but here is a picture of it.
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Even with the rain-fly removed, while laying in the hammock, the fabric scoops around too much to see anywhere but immediately to the side at the foot end.
Once you have mastered getting in and out they are really a great shelter.
Which model do you have?
Not mine, but check out this winter hammock set up.
In extreme cold I use fire ( no stove) to heat my hammock...
x2. i will add, i think that unless you are in imminent danger of being wiped out by say a hurricane or tsunami type event, planning to bug out is gonna get you in deeper sheeit than if you just stay where you are and organize a group with your family/neighborhood. there are just too many people. the whole fantasy of grabbing your AR and humping out into the woods and living off deer is just that, fantasy. there will be no deer, just 100 million people trying to do the same thing you are. its gonna take alot to get me to abandon my preps, food storage, and home ground.