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Carry on school property

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Yes, in CT!!! [wink]

The law says you can't carry on the property of a primary and secondary school. Do they mean elementary and middle schools? Are high schools and colleges (policy aside...talking law here) ok?

I ask because my polling place today was at a middle school. No, I did not carry, nor did I even have a gun in my car. Had it not been literally down the street, I would have carried and left it in the car, especially if it were a long drive and/or I had other stops to make.
 
This has been a little bit beaten to death on here in the past, but IMHO it seems like it's legal to carry at a college or university, but not at an elementary, middle or high school.

But there's not a ton of CT members on here, and I don't think there's a single CT legal professional that posts on here, so our collective knowledge in this area is limited.
 
The way the law is written, colleges/universities should be OK... but then again, so is open-carry in CT. Just because it's legal doesn't mean that the CSP won't figure out something to charge you with.
 
Just because it's legal doesn't mean that the CSP won't figure out something to charge you with.

Yeah, they'll just pop you with a breach of peace charge or something, same as open carrying. There was a FAQ on the BFPE's website that said you must make every effort to keep your firearm concealed because if you "cause a person alarm", you are subject to having your permit revoked. Probably your gun, too. [angry]
 
The Firearms Bureau says it is unlawful due to some obscure provision that i am too lazy to look up. (GSG and I have discussed it so he knows which one it is). Under said provision it is pretty obscure to argue that a college campus would fall under that, so the general consensus is its not against the law
 
The Firearms Bureau says it is unlawful due to some obscure provision that i am too lazy to look up. (GSG and I have discussed it so he knows which one it is). Under said provision it is pretty obscure to argue that a college campus would fall under that, so the general consensus is its not against the law

Yup, two links here:

http://www.ct.gov/bfpe/cwp/view.asp?a=1838&Q=418126&PM=1

http://search.cga.state.ct.us/surs/Chap529.htm#Sec29-28.htm

In Chapter 529 Section 29-28 (emphasis mine):

Sec. 29-28. Permit for sale at retail of pistol or revolver. Permit to carry pistol or revolver. Confidentiality of name and address of permit holder. Permits for out-of-state residents. (a) No person who sells ten or more pistols or revolvers in a calendar year or is a federally-licensed firearm dealer shall advertise, sell, deliver, or offer or expose for sale or delivery, or have in such person's possession with intent to sell or deliver, any pistol or revolver at retail without having a permit therefor issued as provided in this subsection. The chief of police or, where there is no chief of police, the warden of the borough or the first selectman of the town, as the case may be, may, upon the application of any person, issue a permit in such form as may be prescribed by the Commissioner of Public Safety for the sale at retail of pistols and revolvers within the jurisdiction of the authority issuing such permit. No permit for the sale at retail of any pistol or revolver shall be issued unless the applicant holds a valid eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver issued pursuant to section 29-36f or a valid state permit to carry a pistol or revolver issued pursuant to subsection (b) of this section and the applicant submits documentation sufficient to establish that local zoning requirements have been met for the location where the sale is to take place except that any person selling or exchanging a pistol or revolver for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby or who sells all or part of such person's personal collection of pistols or revolvers shall not be required to submit such documentation for the location where the sale or exchange is to take place.

(b) Upon the application of any person having a bona fide residence or place of business within the jurisdiction of any such authority, such chief of police, warden or selectman may issue a temporary state permit to such person to carry a pistol or revolver within the state, provided such authority shall find that such applicant intends to make no use of any pistol or revolver which such applicant may be permitted to carry under such permit other than a lawful use and that such person is a suitable person to receive such permit. No state or temporary state permit to carry a pistol or revolver shall be issued under this subsection if the applicant (1) has failed to successfully complete a course approved by the Commissioner of Public Safety in the safety and use of pistols and revolvers including, but not limited to, a safety or training course in the use of pistols and revolvers available to the public offered by a law enforcement agency, a private or public educational institution or a firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Environmental Protection and a safety or training course in the use of pistols or revolvers conducted by an instructor certified by the state or the National Rifle Association, (2) has been convicted of a felony or of a violation of subsection (c) of section 21a-279, section 53a-58, 53a-61, 53a-61a, 53a-62, 53a-63, 53a-96, 53a-175, 53a-176, 53a-178 or 53a-181d, (3) has been convicted as delinquent for the commission of a serious juvenile offense, as defined in section 46b-120, (4) has been discharged from custody within the preceding twenty years after having been found not guilty of a crime by reason of mental disease or defect pursuant to section 53a-13, (5) has been confined in a hospital for persons with psychiatric disabilities, as defined in section 17a-495, within the preceding twelve months by order of a probate court, (6) is subject to a restraining or protective order issued by a court in a case involving the use, attempted use or threatened use of physical force against another person, (7) is subject to a firearms seizure order issued pursuant to subsection (d) of section 29-38c after notice and hearing, (8) is prohibited from shipping, transporting, possessing or receiving a firearm pursuant to 18 USC 922(g)(4), (9) is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States, or (10) is less than twenty-one years of age. Nothing in this section shall require any person who holds a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver on October 1, 1994, to participate in any additional training in the safety and use of pistols and revolvers. Upon issuance of a temporary state permit to the applicant, the local authority shall forward the original application to the commissioner. Not later than sixty days after receiving a temporary state permit, an applicant shall appear at a location designated by the commissioner to receive the state permit. Said commissioner may then issue, to any holder of any temporary state permit, a state permit to carry a pistol or revolver within the state. Upon issuance of the state permit, the commissioner shall forward a record of such permit to the local authority issuing the temporary state permit. The commissioner shall retain records of all applications, whether approved or denied. The copy of the state permit delivered to the permittee shall be laminated and shall contain a full-face photograph of such permittee. A person holding a state permit issued pursuant to this subsection shall notify the issuing authority within two business days of any change of such person's address. The notification shall include the old address and the new address of such person.

(c) No issuing authority may require any sworn member of the Department of Public Safety or an organized local police department to furnish such sworn member's residence address in a permit application. The issuing authority shall allow each such sworn member who has a permit to carry a pistol or revolver issued by such authority, to revise such member's application to include a business or post office address in lieu of the residence address. The issuing authority shall notify each such member of the right to revise such application.

(d) Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 1-210 and 1-211, the name and address of a person issued a permit to sell at retail pistols and revolvers pursuant to subsection (a) of this section or a state or a temporary state permit to carry a pistol or revolver pursuant to subsection (b) of this section, or a local permit to carry pistols and revolvers issued by local authorities prior to October 1, 2001, shall be confidential and shall not be disclosed, except (1) such information may be disclosed to law enforcement officials acting in the performance of their duties, (2) the issuing authority may disclose such information to the extent necessary to comply with a request made pursuant to section 29-33 for verification that such state or temporary state permit is still valid and has not been suspended or revoked, and the local authority may disclose such information to the extent necessary to comply with a request made pursuant to section 29-33 for verification that a local permit is still valid and has not been suspended or revoked, and (3) such information may be disclosed to the Commissioner of Mental Health and Addiction Services to carry out the provisions of subsection (c) of section 17a-500.

(e) The issuance of any permit to carry a pistol or revolver does not thereby authorize the possession or carrying of a pistol or revolver in any premises where the possession or carrying of a pistol or revolver is otherwise prohibited by law or is prohibited by the person who owns or exercises control over such premises.

(f) Any bona fide resident of the United States having no bona fide residence or place of business within the jurisdiction of any local authority in the state, but who has a permit or license to carry a pistol or revolver issued by the authority of another state or subdivision of the United States, may apply directly to the Commissioner of Public Safety for a permit to carry a pistol or revolver in this state. All provisions of subsections (b), (c), (d) and (e) of this section shall apply to applications for a permit received by the commissioner under this subsection.


The bolded statement there in subsection "e" is what hollywud7 is talking about. Basically what it's saying is that just because someone has a license to carry a gun doesn't mean that they can force others to allow them to carry.

For instance, if you have a job and your employer makes your work a gun-free zone where you can be fired for having a gun, you can't use your permit to make them change their policies. However, this doesn't hold any legal weight as far as a criminal charge goes if you're carrying somewhere (such as a college campus) where in CT it isn't illegal to carry, but the administration doesn't want it.

They can kick you out of the school or fire you from the hypothetical job that bars carrying, but there's no criminal charge for it.

Capisce? [grin]
 
Though it may be legal, for those under contract with the College/University etc, I.E. students, professors, grounds keepers etc. - carrying on campus may be a breach of contract...as some folks at the college I went to found the hard way.
 
Though it may be legal, for those under contract with the College/University etc, I.E. students, professors, grounds keepers etc. - carrying on campus may be a breach of contract...as some folks at the college I went to found the hard way.

Yup. The college can go after them administratively, but not legally WRT carrying on school grounds. It's unfortunate that they can still do that, but thats how it is.

***Edited to add***

Looks like I was wrong here, it may be illegal.

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...926-Places-off-limits-to-carry-in-CT?p=747291
 
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