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I was down at Foxwoods over the weekend and left my gun at home. Is it OK to carry while there given you have a CT non resi lic?
I was down at Foxwoods over the weekend and left my gun at home. Is it OK to carry while there given you have a CT non resi lic?
At the top of the escalator? But you are already inside by then. Did you see anyone the doors as you entered the building?
I cannot think of a place in this state, possibly the country, where I would feel less safe than the casinos. Really really seedy places, they are. Of course they don't want you to have guns there. I'd much rather be in a casino openly run by steriotypical italian american gangsters from the 20's.
I guess we very different. I cannot think of a place in that I feel safer than in a casino.
I cannot think of a place in this state, possibly the country, where I would feel less safe than the casinos. Really really seedy places, they are. Of course they don't want you to have guns there. I'd much rather be in a casino openly run by steriotypical italian american gangsters from the 20's.
...and all other weapons. Regardless, I carried a 4" Cold Steel "Voyager" folder in my right front trouser pocket and my girlfriend carried OC in her purse when we were at Mohegan Sun a few years ago.I'm 99% sure that the sign at the entrances to Mohegan Sun specifically prohibit firearms.
The casinos were actually run by Italians from Atlantic City and Vegas. The indians were smart. They hired experts. I'm not sure if they are still involved.
The question of the day is, is there an enforcement authority there? EG, do they have their own justice system? If the answer to this is "No" then whatever silly "laws" they have in place are meaningless.... although my bet is they would probably kick you out and ban you for life. (Casinos have this habit of banning people, although it's mostly people who try to rig the games or get caught counting cards.... all of that, of course, is a lot less common than it used to be. )
-Mike
A lot of the info given in that thread was given by a tribal member. He has a lot to lose if he breaks their laws.
I'll happily ignore them. What are they going to do? Extradite me from the United States. I don't buy that for a minute.
I would treat it like any other property owner who may choose to ask you to leave. i.e. if you refuse you are trespassing. I've specifically looked for "no guns" signs at the entrances and have never seen any. I couldn't give a rats ass if I piss off the tribal elders. All I care about is compliance with CT law.
The truth of the matter is that they can pretend to be sovereign, but the casino complies with all state of CT laws when it comes to:
1) witholding of state taxes for employees
2) drinking age
3) bar closing time
Back to the original poster's question, you will not break any CT laws if you carry into a casino. Provided that the entrance is not clearly marked "no guns".
Don
I guess we very different. I cannot think of a place in that I feel safer than in a casino.
I just found this. It looks like its legal to carry with a permit.
http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=13768&stateId=7&stateName=Connecticut
Sec. 6-121. - Permit Required.
No person shall carry any pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun or any other firearm within the boundaries of the Mohegan Indian Reservation for any purpose unless said person has been issued a permit to carry such firearm by the Department of Public Safety. No permit shall be issued unless the individual applying for the permit has:
(1) A valid, current Connecticut or federal permit to carry such firearm as documented to the Department of Public Safety;
(2) The individual has a recognized, legitimate business need for such permit approved by the Department of Public Safety; and
(3) Such permit shall be valid only during such times as the individual is on duty and engaged in said business.
The "Department of Public Safety" referenced above is that of The Mohegan Tribe, not the State of Connecticut.
The "Department of Public Safety" referenced above is that of The Mohegan Tribe, not the State of Connecticut.
I tried to find a reference to Dept of Public Safety and there isn't much under the Tribal Nation site. I know my permit was issued by the CT DPS. I am not sure if the Tribal Nation issues a carry permit, as they sure don't make it easy to find out. It seems like a CT permit may be a requirement their own carry permit.
It is a pretty safe environment with cameras covering every inch,
A Google search brought up some interesting results about safety in casinos.
but I still carry my Kershaw knife and lock the gun in the car.
The truth is that if somebody tries to rob you and you use a firearm defensively on tribal land you will be tried in CT court, not Mohegan court.