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Congress pushing for red flag laws and anything that will stick. Live feed starts thursday 9:55 am
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AHM
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Emerson ER doctor asks if I feel safe at home.
Didn't tell him how fücking safe I feel.
VetteGirlMA
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Due process is old timey nonsense. No one needs due process.
VetteGirlMA
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This is the moment when November either the republicans have a red tsunami or it's a red trickle. Let's see who the traitor to civil rights is going to be.
ScottG
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Wanting to Live in MA?
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GM-GUY
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You know they won't write a new AWB like the last one - it will just outright ban most if not all semi-automatics. The question is, do they go for confiscation or just mandatory registration (to start with)? You guys remember what happened in California, people followed the registration scheme - then had cops turn up to collect them.
We all know how it ends when the populace is disarmed - so, do you object now or wait until you have a sharply pointed pencil to respond to the knock at the door?
As the texter on Kuhner today said "We know how it ends with a disarmed citizenry - this isn't a bad hill to die on". To paraphrase General Patton - make the other poor dumb bastard die for his cause first.
We all know how it ends when the populace is disarmed - so, do you object now or wait until you have a sharply pointed pencil to respond to the knock at the door?
As the texter on Kuhner today said "We know how it ends with a disarmed citizenry - this isn't a bad hill to die on". To paraphrase General Patton - make the other poor dumb bastard die for his cause first.
MaverickNH
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A arrogant college Proff once asked our class if any of us knew what “Elide" meant. After a pause, I said “It means ee didn’t tell the truth, Guvvnah"
reason.com
Although supporters of red flag laws tend to glide over these details, they can make a decisive difference for respondents wrongly portrayed as threats. Graham dismissed critics of red flag laws as "libertarians," saying "the Second Amendment is not a suicide pact." That is the sort of thing politicians say when they find constitutional rights inconvenient.
Bipartisan Support for Red Flag Laws Elides the Practical and Constitutional Issues They Raise
Because there is no reliable way to identify future mass shooters, many innocent people will likely lose their Second Amendment rights.
reason.com
Although supporters of red flag laws tend to glide over these details, they can make a decisive difference for respondents wrongly portrayed as threats. Graham dismissed critics of red flag laws as "libertarians," saying "the Second Amendment is not a suicide pact." That is the sort of thing politicians say when they find constitutional rights inconvenient.
barnabus
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A arrogant college Proff once asked our class if any of us knew what “Elide" meant. After a pause, I said “It means ee didn’t tell the truth, Guvvnah"
Bipartisan Support for Red Flag Laws Elides the Practical and Constitutional Issues They Raise
Because there is no reliable way to identify future mass shooters, many innocent people will likely lose their Second Amendment rights.
Although supporters of red flag laws tend to glide over these details, they can make a decisive difference for respondents wrongly portrayed as threats. Graham dismissed critics of red flag laws as "libertarians," saying "the Second Amendment is not a suicide pact." That is the sort of thing politicians say when they find constitutional rights inconvenient.
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MaverickNH
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Damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
A flood of RedFlags would massively overburden police/court resources and create a “Boy Who Cried Wolf” mentality. The scary Dems know this is true and want Tech Giants to create an privatized NSA-like system to use magic algorithms to alert law enforcement of those whose posts trip the Mass Kiler switch.
"The rare nature of mass shootings creates challenges for accurately identifying salient predictors of risk," RAND Corporation researchers Rosanna Smart and Terry Schell notein a 2021 essay. "The low base rates of these events also ensure that policies targeting individuals based on risk factors would result in an extremely high rate of false positives; even the best available risk factors can identify only a subpopulation in which the risk of committing a mass shooting is on the order of one in a million."
A 2012 study that the Department of Defense commissioned after the 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood in Texas makes the same point in an appendix titled "Prediction: Why It Won't Work." While "there may be pre-existing behavior markers that are specifiable," it says, those markers "are of low specificity and thus carry the baggage of an unavoidable false alarm rate, which limits feasibility of prediction-intervention strategies." In other words, even if certain "red flags" are common among mass shooters, almost none of the people who display those signs are bent on murderous violence"
A flood of RedFlags would massively overburden police/court resources and create a “Boy Who Cried Wolf” mentality. The scary Dems know this is true and want Tech Giants to create an privatized NSA-like system to use magic algorithms to alert law enforcement of those whose posts trip the Mass Kiler switch.
"The rare nature of mass shootings creates challenges for accurately identifying salient predictors of risk," RAND Corporation researchers Rosanna Smart and Terry Schell notein a 2021 essay. "The low base rates of these events also ensure that policies targeting individuals based on risk factors would result in an extremely high rate of false positives; even the best available risk factors can identify only a subpopulation in which the risk of committing a mass shooting is on the order of one in a million."
A 2012 study that the Department of Defense commissioned after the 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood in Texas makes the same point in an appendix titled "Prediction: Why It Won't Work." While "there may be pre-existing behavior markers that are specifiable," it says, those markers "are of low specificity and thus carry the baggage of an unavoidable false alarm rate, which limits feasibility of prediction-intervention strategies." In other words, even if certain "red flags" are common among mass shooters, almost none of the people who display those signs are bent on murderous violence"
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