Not a prepper, but I've found that once people (non gun owners) find out that you're a gun owner , it seems to be an open invitation. The "If the shtf, I'm hanging out with you!" conversation comes up a lot. I just tell them to BYOG&A.
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Dealing with people that know you are a Prepper
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^^ This!
Lie, obfuscate, whatever you need to do to convince them you're no longer a source of stuff to steal.
beaker
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My wifes sister in law made a comment like that and i said you better come with a whole lot of food and supplies. She laughed and i didn't. She said "oh..." and I said yup.
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Chevy 2 65
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Don't feed the animals
The Apocalypse is BYOB
I just tell them that they don't want to be coming up my driveway unannounced, especially post TEOTWAWKI. Not that you would shoot your wife's friends , but you wouldn't know it was them, seeing as they failed to give advance notice via the appropriate channel, squelch unlock, and challenge-response.
You want the codes? That'll be $10K, payable in advance.
I just tell them that they don't want to be coming up my driveway unannounced, especially post TEOTWAWKI. Not that you would shoot your wife's friends , but you wouldn't know it was them, seeing as they failed to give advance notice via the appropriate channel, squelch unlock, and challenge-response.
You want the codes? That'll be $10K, payable in advance.
The trick is getting just the right ... pause ... between the statement, and the chuckle after.
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reality sets in
Thanks, that was a good read.
Scarecrow
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Damn I missed that! "so she WASN"T hot". OK sorry missed that. yes she was......but that did not come into a factor of his response
Post apocalypse, a cold bed is preferable to an empty belly. As far as the world is concerned, I prepare to survive in case another hurricane comes through and locks me in place for a couple days, but I'm SOL if the end comes. No one will ever know if that is the truth or not.
This is how the welfare state started.
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I'm not prepping, but if I was, it would be for when the government came to take care of me.
June4th
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If you want to come to my house, at least you should be able to contribute to its common defense. Wanna learn to shoot at my range?
Lots commies turn to freedom lovers once they get hooked on shooting. Just say'n.
Lots commies turn to freedom lovers once they get hooked on shooting. Just say'n.
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The first rule of fight club...
warwickben
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I'm not prepping .
Most people around me are anti or don't own guns. So I'm just gonna go house to house take the women and food .
Jk
Most people around me are anti or don't own guns. So I'm just gonna go house to house take the women and food .
Jk
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With some of the women I know up here ..you may be the one that is taken by the women...and not in a fun way !
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MaxStravinsky
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Maybe us NES preppers should combine forces. Individually we're all good to go, but as a group we could really kick butt.
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"What is this 'Prepper' that you speak of? I have no idea what you are talking about, and I'm sure that the .gov will take care of everything, if the need ever should arise."
Then, switch the TV to Dancing With the Stars.
Then, switch the TV to Dancing With the Stars.
Here's a great article to send to anybody who says "I'll come to your place!"
http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-...-to-your-place-when-shtf-no-you-wont_10222014
Editor’s Note: This article has been generously contributed by Glen Tate of299Days.com. Glen is the author of the 10-part series 299 Days, which is inspired by his own life and personal journey. It begins with 299 Days: The Preparation and introduces us to a husband who awakens to the fragility of modern society and embarks on a personal journey that introduces him to a world of self-reliance and liberation.
In the following article Glen covers an issue that is very dear to most preppers – what to do when neighbors, friends and family come knocking. With limited resources available we’re all going to have to make tough decisions. Like many of us, Glen plans on helping those truly in need. But what about those who refused to see the warning signs and stuck their head in the sand, perhaps even lambasted you for your extreme ideas and theories? Instead of being frugal and preparing, they focused their efforts on entertainment and good times.
But when the good times end, they will come to you for help. What will you do when they show up at your front door?
“I’ll Come To Your Place When SHTF” – No You Won’t
By Glen Tate | 299 Days
(This post is something you can send to your friends or print out and hand to them when SHTF.)
Dear Friend:
I love my friends, but I will shoot you if I have to. I’m serious. Here’s why.
I tried to persuade you to prepare for what’s coming and, in the process, revealed that to you that I’m preparing. You realized that I have food, guns, etc., and ended up saying, half kidding but half serious, “I’ll come to your place when SHTF.”
No you won’t. I will shoot you. If you threaten me and my family, I will use force to defend against any threat. And showing up at my place hungry and unprepared is a threat to me. You will eat my food and use up my medical supplies, generator, firewood, etc. That’s less of these life-saving things for me and my family. That’s a threat.
Is this greed on my part? No. I will take care of the truly needy – those who cannot take care of themselves. But you are different. Very different. You had plenty of chances to prepare for yourself.
But what did you do? You spent the weekends watching football, went on expensive vacations, and never made your spouse mad at you with your “crazy” ideas that something bad was happening. You didn’t do shit because… you would just come to my place. Problem solved, right? You didn’t need to spend time, money, and create domestic strife because I did that all for you.
Not. Why should I spend my time, money, and stress just so you can waltz into my place and live happily ever after? I’m a nice guy, but – really? – I’m going to spend my (very limited) free time, disposable income, and domestic tranquility just so you can have a leisurely life and more material comforts pre-Collapse while I don’t?
Why do you think I will sacrifice enormous amounts of my time and money so you can enjoy yourself while I’m slaving away? Would you assume you could come over and leave your broken car at my house? That I would just spend thousands of dollars on parts and several weekends fixing it and then hand it over to you with a smile – just because I’m a “good guy”? Would anyone expect that?
You do, apparently. You actually expect to waltz over to my cabin and receive – with a smile – thousands of dollars of food and other supplies that took me all my weekends to acquire and store.
So, my grasshopper friend (as in the story of the grasshopper and the ant), here is your official warning: if your “plan” for your and your family’s safety is to come to my place, you’re wrong. When you show up, I’ll ask you to leave. When you don’t, I’ll point a gun in your face. If you refuse to leave, I will shoot you. You are a threat to me.
You had years of time and very clear warnings to get ready. But you didn’t. Hey, I love football but haven’t been able to watch a game in a few years; I’ve been fixing up the cabin, buying supplies, and training with the Team. I spent a lot of money doing all these things so I haven’t gone on a long vacation in… forever. I have had several difficult times with my wife because of all the prepping I’m doing; I could have easily done what you did, which is just say “Yes, dear” and not prepare because she didn’t want you to.
I hope this message jolted you. There’s still some time. Go prep. Please understand that your plan cannot be “I’ll come to your place.” I don’t want to shoot you.
Glen Tate” (not his real name) is a lawyer and political person in Olympia, the state capitol of Washington State. He was a secret prepper, hiding his activities from his wife – and he wrote the ten-book 299 Days series in secret, too.
Glen has led an amazing life – and one that took a surprising turn. He grew up poor in the rural logging town of Forks, Washington. He worked hard to become a successful professional with a job in the political arena. Thinking he’d finally made it and everything was great, he was stunned to see how corrupt government is. From his observations at his job, he realized that America is collapsing and bad things are coming. Very soon. He began to prepare for him and his family to make it through the civil unrest of the coming collapse. That meant he had to return to his rural roots – quite a shock to his family and friends. Even more amazing was that he wrote down what he foresees happening during the collapse and it became a ten-book novel series published by Prepper Press.
http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-...-to-your-place-when-shtf-no-you-wont_10222014
Editor’s Note: This article has been generously contributed by Glen Tate of299Days.com. Glen is the author of the 10-part series 299 Days, which is inspired by his own life and personal journey. It begins with 299 Days: The Preparation and introduces us to a husband who awakens to the fragility of modern society and embarks on a personal journey that introduces him to a world of self-reliance and liberation.
In the following article Glen covers an issue that is very dear to most preppers – what to do when neighbors, friends and family come knocking. With limited resources available we’re all going to have to make tough decisions. Like many of us, Glen plans on helping those truly in need. But what about those who refused to see the warning signs and stuck their head in the sand, perhaps even lambasted you for your extreme ideas and theories? Instead of being frugal and preparing, they focused their efforts on entertainment and good times.
But when the good times end, they will come to you for help. What will you do when they show up at your front door?
“I’ll Come To Your Place When SHTF” – No You Won’t
By Glen Tate | 299 Days
(This post is something you can send to your friends or print out and hand to them when SHTF.)
Dear Friend:
I love my friends, but I will shoot you if I have to. I’m serious. Here’s why.
I tried to persuade you to prepare for what’s coming and, in the process, revealed that to you that I’m preparing. You realized that I have food, guns, etc., and ended up saying, half kidding but half serious, “I’ll come to your place when SHTF.”
No you won’t. I will shoot you. If you threaten me and my family, I will use force to defend against any threat. And showing up at my place hungry and unprepared is a threat to me. You will eat my food and use up my medical supplies, generator, firewood, etc. That’s less of these life-saving things for me and my family. That’s a threat.
Is this greed on my part? No. I will take care of the truly needy – those who cannot take care of themselves. But you are different. Very different. You had plenty of chances to prepare for yourself.
But what did you do? You spent the weekends watching football, went on expensive vacations, and never made your spouse mad at you with your “crazy” ideas that something bad was happening. You didn’t do shit because… you would just come to my place. Problem solved, right? You didn’t need to spend time, money, and create domestic strife because I did that all for you.
Not. Why should I spend my time, money, and stress just so you can waltz into my place and live happily ever after? I’m a nice guy, but – really? – I’m going to spend my (very limited) free time, disposable income, and domestic tranquility just so you can have a leisurely life and more material comforts pre-Collapse while I don’t?
Why do you think I will sacrifice enormous amounts of my time and money so you can enjoy yourself while I’m slaving away? Would you assume you could come over and leave your broken car at my house? That I would just spend thousands of dollars on parts and several weekends fixing it and then hand it over to you with a smile – just because I’m a “good guy”? Would anyone expect that?
You do, apparently. You actually expect to waltz over to my cabin and receive – with a smile – thousands of dollars of food and other supplies that took me all my weekends to acquire and store.
So, my grasshopper friend (as in the story of the grasshopper and the ant), here is your official warning: if your “plan” for your and your family’s safety is to come to my place, you’re wrong. When you show up, I’ll ask you to leave. When you don’t, I’ll point a gun in your face. If you refuse to leave, I will shoot you. You are a threat to me.
You had years of time and very clear warnings to get ready. But you didn’t. Hey, I love football but haven’t been able to watch a game in a few years; I’ve been fixing up the cabin, buying supplies, and training with the Team. I spent a lot of money doing all these things so I haven’t gone on a long vacation in… forever. I have had several difficult times with my wife because of all the prepping I’m doing; I could have easily done what you did, which is just say “Yes, dear” and not prepare because she didn’t want you to.
I hope this message jolted you. There’s still some time. Go prep. Please understand that your plan cannot be “I’ll come to your place.” I don’t want to shoot you.
Glen Tate” (not his real name) is a lawyer and political person in Olympia, the state capitol of Washington State. He was a secret prepper, hiding his activities from his wife – and he wrote the ten-book 299 Days series in secret, too.
Glen has led an amazing life – and one that took a surprising turn. He grew up poor in the rural logging town of Forks, Washington. He worked hard to become a successful professional with a job in the political arena. Thinking he’d finally made it and everything was great, he was stunned to see how corrupt government is. From his observations at his job, he realized that America is collapsing and bad things are coming. Very soon. He began to prepare for him and his family to make it through the civil unrest of the coming collapse. That meant he had to return to his rural roots – quite a shock to his family and friends. Even more amazing was that he wrote down what he foresees happening during the collapse and it became a ten-book novel series published by Prepper Press.
Probably not a good idea - half of 'em talk about just stealing sh#t from others if/when the need arises.
![[rolleyes]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/042.gif "Roll Eyes [rolleyes]")
Not the sort I'd want at my back.
I tell everyone that knows me "Bring food, water, & bullets or don't come here".
Most of the people I know have more freaking money than I do, it's not my fault they spend all of their $$$ on vacations & Harleys!...
Most of the people I know have more freaking money than I do, it's not my fault they spend all of their $$$ on vacations & Harleys!...
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We will if the end comes. As far as the cold bed.....don't ask if she's hawt, ask if she can fish/hunt/sew/cook/farm.
Probably not a good idea - half of 'em talk about just stealing sh#t from others if/when the need arises.
Not the sort I'd want at my back.
QFT
Camouflage is an excellent idea. Deflect, deny, delay, change the subject. self deprecation has always been a successful strategy for me. "You wouldn't believe it, but....."
Why do you have a generator? because I have all this money tied up in an exotic habit, (saltwater fish) and I need to keep heat/cooling and circulation on.
Propane? The jackwagons at the gas company oversized that thing and really screwed me when they sold it to me. I could cook for years on that stupid thing.......years.......
Wood stove? I'm too cheap to pay for oil. Yeah, that one in the garage is one I bought, but it doesn't fit, and I can't find a way to get rid of it....
Deuce and a half with oversized tires? Midlife crisis. You would not believe how fragile/expensive/they are in real life, I cannot imagine what the army spent in maintenance. The batteries alone....and RANGE? I can't even pass a gas station.
All those gas cans? We have quads (more camouflage) and they are TERRIBLE on gas. Add in a mini bike, string trimmer, brush hog, tractor, power washer, chain saws and you would not believe how much gas you can go through in just a weekend.....
Guns? I'm just a FUDD who shoots holes in paper at 50 feet. No, I wasn't coming back from the range on that rainy/snowy/hot/cold day, I only shoot on sunny days between 67 and 70 degrees with no wind from a benchrest.
Food? I bought some stuff at the wally world sale.....think I might have an expired mac'n'cheese, but do you have any milk or butter?
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I think that prepping and talking about it to people you know and know you is much like going up-the-stairs and down-the-stairs at the same time.
It may be a great social subject, but, just don't do it.
I'm not a big-time prepper but I certainly buy things which I will only need if SHTF.
The people I have in mind to bring in are only my in-laws. And even then, I only briefly mentioned to my FIL in one sentence "hey if any major civil disturbance or calamity occurs, don't think twice - jump in the car and get here, I'll take care of you". Being that he's and older man and I speak like a grumpy old man
, it seemed like we both understood what was it was all about, and I was happy he did not go into specifics.
And that's my FIL and his wife.
as to friends in a drinking joking conversation ? I'd never mention that unless I know we share the exact point of view. I think it's everybody's responsibility to prepare for their own.
In my neighborhood, seeing the love affair people have with electricity and major utility companies (Gas, Oil), if SHTF, oh boy, it's going to be a mess.
To summarize: I'd never mention it, will never give anyone a "tour of the basement". Nothing. If/when shit happens and I decide to bring extra folks in, it will be dependent on the situation, in a disaster there are too many variables which cannot be foreseen, therefore I don't make a cut and dry plan about who's in/out, beside the in-laws.
It may be a great social subject, but, just don't do it.
I'm not a big-time prepper but I certainly buy things which I will only need if SHTF.
The people I have in mind to bring in are only my in-laws. And even then, I only briefly mentioned to my FIL in one sentence "hey if any major civil disturbance or calamity occurs, don't think twice - jump in the car and get here, I'll take care of you". Being that he's and older man and I speak like a grumpy old man
, it seemed like we both understood what was it was all about, and I was happy he did not go into specifics. And that's my FIL and his wife.
as to friends in a drinking joking conversation ? I'd never mention that unless I know we share the exact point of view. I think it's everybody's responsibility to prepare for their own.
In my neighborhood, seeing the love affair people have with electricity and major utility companies (Gas, Oil), if SHTF, oh boy, it's going to be a mess.
To summarize: I'd never mention it, will never give anyone a "tour of the basement". Nothing. If/when shit happens and I decide to bring extra folks in, it will be dependent on the situation, in a disaster there are too many variables which cannot be foreseen, therefore I don't make a cut and dry plan about who's in/out, beside the in-laws.
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I ain't got shit other than guns food water not enough to keep a lot of people fed so those people may be named Soylant if they show up at my house.
There's only a few people allowed to enter my house and you're one of them cuz I know you can build me a bike !!
In all seriousness some people know I have some stuff but they haven't a clue of the extent and never will.. They like to make fun about it but when the power goes out and they need warmth they're calling me but they aren't really welcome..
