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Yeah Mark, stop busting Kisspik002's balls. Can't you see that she is having a bad day?
First off its my opinion so if I want to dismiss it as a range gun I may do so, I know the armed forces use it to defend their lives and our freedoms and I'm thankful beyond words. From what my good friend tell me, as a combat weapon it's not a bad firearm. All I did was express my "opinion" that as a range gun its great but that's it. Others might disagree some will agree that's the beauty of a forum, but don't break my balls and tell me that I'm dismissing something. Not looking to argue or fight with anyone but it is my opinion, nothing more
Oh...now I get it...it is Kisspik's forum, she expresses her opinion, but I cannot express my opinion. Seems to me that you flew off the handle a bit, when I said that I wouldn't dismiss it simply as a range gun and I articulated my reason why...then you decide to turn this into some kind of ad hom thing about your ability to express you opinion.
Fact: I said nothing disrespectful to you or disrespectful about your opinion.
These kind of little flare-ups are becoming increasingly frequent on NES, I think I'll be taking a vacation from the keyboard commandos, political pundits, and thin skinned posters who take offense at innocuous posts where personal opinion is expressed without rancor or offense intended.
See ya after the elections...bye.
Oh...now I get it...it is Kisspik's forum, she expresses her opinion, but I cannot express my opinion. Seems to me that you flew off the handle a bit, when I said that I wouldn't dismiss it simply as a range gun and I articulated my reason why...then you decide to turn this into some kind of ad hom thing about your ability to express you opinion.
Fact: I said nothing disrespectful to you or disrespectful about your opinion.
These kind of little flare-ups are becoming increasingly frequent on NES, I think I'll be taking a vacation from the keyboard commandos, political pundits, and thin skinned posters who take offense at innocuous posts where personal opinion is expressed without rancor or offense intended.
See ya after the elections...bye.
My 92FS is garbage compared to a G17/G34.
For my own curiousity, what were the issues with your 92FS vs. G17/G34. I found the opposite. My M9 was more comfortable, more reliable and more accurate than my G34.
BUT, that was just my experience.
Because most of my handgun experience up to that point was with the M9, I was (and still am) more comfortable with the more vertical grip. I found with the Glock that my front sight tends to end up high and I have to think about keeping it down.
In the end, I decided to stick with the M9 because I wasn't looking for a CCW gun and it was the gun that my wife and I were both the most comfortable with and had already depended on.
But, like I said, that's just my opinion, yours may and probably will differ.
Aloha
Ah - back to civilized discussion with people posting actual reasons and experiences for liking or disliking a particular gun verus just loudly announcing that people who like Gun X are fartheads who wouldn't know a handgun from a sharpened stick. My faith in humanity is (temporarily) restored.
BTW - B&K has several police trade ins at a really good price if anyone is looking.
I thought they were cheaper than that. I'm going by there tomorrow for the get together. I'll double check the price for you then.
Aloha.
I don't know where you guys are coming from, but Four Seasons still has a couple of police trade ins for $350 - pretty good deal even if you have to travel.
Personally, I like a police trade in because the majority of the police officers I know shoot their service weapons maybe twice a year. So while they may be in tough shape cosmetically, they are probably still pretty sound mechanically. Mine had a spot just behind the grip where it had obviously rubbed repeatedly on something when someone was carrying it in a holster, so it was all scratched. I just buffed up the scratches a bit when I was polishing the inner parts and hit it with a little Stay Black from my military gear and it pretty much looks good at first glance and second glance - a careful inspection will show the touch up, but if that's the biggest downside to the $350 Beretta, I'll take it.
If we get a few more people we can start this up. I'll PM anyone who is interested when I have a few more nibbles.Count me in for this. I agree $100 for a once or twice in a llifetime tool is tough to justify.