finally , getting my brother into guns. need help with his first choices

[Queen Bee]

my brother is finally going to take a Basic firearms course on sunday..

hes been looking through my magazines and hes been asking me lots of questions,

granted he needs to go to a gun store and actually hold these guns, but so far the looks of these are good to him

ive explained to him about mag capacity limits , unless you can find pre ban mags ,

so far he likes Sig's,and 1911's hes especially interested in the Sig SP 2022. its looking like a nice first gun, has anyone shot it ? and anyone have any reviews on it?
he would like a 1911 in 9mm , second choice is the .45 which i could buy him low recoil rounds??


he is also looking for good 1911's that are under the 600$ mark.. we did find a para 1911, the GI Expert

http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=73

we also found a 9mm just over his mark but id pay to help him out
in 9mm i found a STI Spartan V
http://www.stiguns.com/the-sti-spartan-v-2/

 

[Dirtypacman]

I think the Ruger and Remington line of 1911's are just about in that price range.
If he is getting a 1911 have him stick with a real 1911 in .45 - he will appreciate it later.
Low recoil rounds - you want to learn under standard pressure loads I would expect. I have never seen any of these but hear people that reload can make powder puff loads. I have done that and had problems with cycling so I stopped.

Don't have any feedback on the Sig other then Sigs are dam good guns.

 

[Pugnax88]

I own a couple Sig handguns (P226 in 9mm and a (239 in .40 S&W) and I'd trust either with my life. I've carried both on a regular basis. God guns, easy to shoot though the sights might take a little getting used to. Easy breakdown and cleaning, no external safeties to fumble with. All around good guns. I'd say put one in his hands and see what he thinks. I will never get rid of my Sigs, and I doubt he would either.

 

[loki32687]

I have not heard good things about the SP2022. Then again, it was just what I overheard in a shop. I do love my 226 though. If he'd like to try it send me a message and maybe we can work out a time for him to try it.

 

[Passthemacs]

My buddies ruger sr1911 shoots dead on and is comfortable at that. Sounds to be hit a tad over your brothers limit. Held a Remington and seen it shot the other night nice gun and the gentleman didn't have anything bad to say except a burr on the grip that he had to file haha (target model) mid 7s.

I got a sr9c and it shoots everything I put thru it and it's cheap for a first gun. (it was mine)

 

[TBalls]

I've never shot the SP2022, but I did fondle it for a while in a shop and it really felt good. The trigger was waaaay smoother than a "regular" stock Sig trigger.

Most important thing is to buy something that he'll shoot as often as time & budget allow. It's hard to argue with a 1911, but 45 is pricey. I'd start with something in 9mm and a Ruger 22/45 to get in more trigger time.

Most importantly, why haven't you brought him over to the dark side? (read: Glock)

 

[yanici]

I shot Sgtmac26's 2022, .40, yesterday. It had a great trigger. I forget if he'd worked on it. Very accurate and good to shoot. I'd buy one if I was interested.

 

[Queen Bee]

its funny but my brother isn't interested in glocks , or Xd's , im sure partially because im a glock girl.

i told him about appreciating the 1911 in .45 and hes on board now with not getting a 1911 unless its a .45..

right now hes liking the sigs. but not the full metal ones price tag, i think that's why he likes the SP2022.

 

[whtmtnhiker54]

The Beretta 92FS (and 96 INOX) is always a nice first gun because of the ergonomics and reliability. I just fits the hand just right. - Michael

 

[Queen Bee]

i tried to get him into a beretta 92A1 , but no luck lol

 

[LittleCalm]

Keep it economical. Like a 338 lapua rifle. Ok, seriously, I second 9mm. S&W M&P or Glock for e.g. My 9's are Sig p228s. The 229 is the more recent version of this double stack 9 with mid-size barrel (3.89") and is basically the same gun. Can't go wrong with a 226 which is full-size 4.4" barrel.

 

[TonyDedo]

He needs more trigger time before he can make an educational decision. A gun can look great in a magazine, but that's not going to translate to the range or a home defense situation. He needs to handle, and more importantly, shoot them first.

And not just one or two rounds, but a good day of shooting. Maybe .45ACP recoil is going to be too much for him. Then again, maybe he, like me, prefers the recoil of a heavy subsonic .45ACP round over a small supersonic 9mm round. Maybe he likes a thin 1911, maybe he likes the more ergonomic SIG.

Either way he decides, I'd highly recommend he get a .22LR conversion with whichever choice he makes.

 

[chudog41]

9mm and SR9c

My buddies ruger sr1911 shoots dead on and is comfortable at that. Sounds to be hit a tad over your brothers limit. Held a Remington and seen it shot the other night nice gun and the gentleman didn't have anything bad to say except a burr on the grip that he had to file haha (target model) mid 7s.

I got a sr9c and it shoots everything I put thru it and it's cheap for a first gun. (it was mine)

I also have an SR9C and love it. I have owned glocks, sigs, s+w wheel guns. The sr9c is very comfortable to shoot, ammo is inexpensive in comparison to .45acp, and it will allow him to practice at the range. If he is concerned about his price point for the purchase of his gun, I am betting he will be concerned about ammo prices too. 9mm is a nice price point and will allow someone new to shooting to actually spend time at the range without breaking the bank. I love 1911's, but I am not going to the range and putting 300 rounds throught my 1911 regularly, I do it almost every weekend with my 9mm.

All that being said, he needs to find a gun that feels good in his hand and he is comfortable with.

 

[Diskothek]

I also have an SR9C and love it. I have owned glocks, sigs, s+w wheel guns. The sr9c is very comfortable to shoot, ammo is inexpensive in comparison to .45acp, and it will allow him to practice at the range. If he is concerned about his price point for the purchase of his gun, I am betting he will be concerned about ammo prices too. 9mm is a nice price point and will allow someone new to shooting to actually spend time at the range without breaking the bank. I love 1911's, but I am not going to the range and putting 300 rounds throught my 1911 regularly, I do it almost every weekend with my 9mm.

All that being said, he needs to find a gun that feels good in his hand and he is comfortable with.

Agree with all this. My friend has an SR9c and its a good shooter.

 

[ckary]

Make room on the bandwagon, $400 at FS makes the sr9c a no brainer. 1000 rounds thru mine, great trigger and$0.22 a round.

 

[wildwest]

Tell him to start saving .. first trip after LTC cost me $1,200 (sr9c was part of that purchase )...thousands since and my safe is full 4 months later..

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[fencer]

Is his first gun going to be just for the range or does he plan on carrying it for self defense?

 

[andy t]

Step 1: Take away all the magazines.
Step 2: Have your brother read m4carbine.net and pistol-forum.com to get an idea for quality guns.
Also the whole idea of a new shooter making a decision after a couple hundred rounds is flawed, since by definition he/she won't have an exposure
to a variety of firearms, and won't necessarily know of any issues with a particular pistol, and 200 rounds isn't much.
Personally, I would recommend the following: Glock 19, M&P 9, Walther P99 in 9mm. H&Ks in 9mm are also pretty good. Notice they are all in 9mm. Unless he has a good reason, getting a gun in a caliber other than 9mm would be suboptimal. Since most of his time will be spent shooting paper, I figure it's better to pay less / hole in paper than more.
Regarding 1911s: I had STI Ranger 2 in 9mm, and I liked it. Spartan, by all accounts is also a nice gun. But 98% of 1911 aftermarket parts accessories usually require some fitting,
and getting 9mm 1911 running may require some tweaking with magazines and other parts. Something I would not think a novice would be comfortable doing. Especially, if this going
to be his first/only pistol for now.

 

[fencer]

Step 1: Take away all the magazines.
Step 2: Have your brother read m4carbine.net and pistol-forum.com to get an idea for quality guns.
Also the whole idea of a new shooter making a decision after a couple hundred rounds is flawed, since by definition he/she won't have an exposure
to a variety of firearms, and won't necessarily know of any issues with a particular pistol, and 200 rounds isn't much.
Personally, I would recommend the following: Glock 19, M&P 9, Walther P99 in 9mm. H&Ks in 9mm are also pretty good. Notice they are all in 9mm. Unless he has a good reason, getting a gun in a caliber other than 9mm would be suboptimal. Since most of his time will be spent shooting paper, I figure it's better to pay less / hole in paper than more.
Regarding 1911s: I had STI Ranger 2 in 9mm, and I liked it. Spartan, by all accounts is also a nice gun. But 98% of 1911 aftermarket parts accessories usually require some fitting,
and getting 9mm 1911 running may require some tweaking with magazines and other parts. Something I would not think a novice would be comfortable doing. Especially, if this going
to be his first/only pistol for now.

Yeah, I disagree with most of this. One man, one vote.