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FNH fs2000
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Sniper977
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Where did you get the FS2000 from? Ive been looking for one myself.I just picked up an fn fs2000 without doing aany research on it.Does anyone have any input positive or negative on it? Thank-you
Collectors coin gallery had 2 when i bought mine like 2 weeks ago
Passthemacs
NES Member
My buddy (also a member here on the forum) let me test out his and i gotta say, I am impressed. It's a bit heavy if you are holding it for extended periods of time in the cold haha jk... but no it shoots accurate from what I can tell and felt recoil is nothing. I reallllly like the rifle. bullpup design is awesome.
the mags, he added mag pullers, sorry if that's the wrong terminology, but without them the mags were kind of a pain to pull out. He had steelie prebans i believe, didn't see a brand on them. Shot brass from it didn't try steel.
the mags, he added mag pullers, sorry if that's the wrong terminology, but without them the mags were kind of a pain to pull out. He had steelie prebans i believe, didn't see a brand on them. Shot brass from it didn't try steel.
BillO
NES Member
You will have to adjust the gas key (takes 3 seconds) to the low setting when using the Wolf el-cheapo stuff.
Nice thanks for the info!
Do not buy an FS2000
Hi. I bought one of these from Collectors Coin just before Christmas 2012 and believe the gun is design defective. It's not a real rifle. This is my opinion and I recognize some people might like this gun, but I am dissatisfied.
I have fired a total of 120 rounds in slow aimed fire on three occasions shooting, both from a rest at a one-inch grid target and off hand at 200 yards at a bulls eye target. The gun balances well and shoulders nicely. It is accurate with 55gr Winchester white box ball ammo and prints just under two inches using the auxiliary sights from a rest using 68 grain Black Hills remanufactured. The sights were right on and required no adjustment for 200 yds. They are small but excellent aperture sights. Of course it was not as accurate as my service rifle match rifles, but it had no problem staying in the black. I shoot high power and thought the two stage trigger had a heavy pull (typical for long bull pup linkage) but broke cleanly so it had a good if heavy let off.
It's accurate, but that's not enough. Everything else is pretty much bad.
Despite its accuracy and compact format, I think it's junk. The so-called "switch" - the white brittle plastic piece that takes the ejected shell from the breech and feeds it into the forward ejection tube is unimaginably fragile. I broke mine when my hand slipped holding the spring during reinstallation. That kind of fragility is bad for any rifle, but simply unforgivable in a combat rifle. A brittle plastic piece in the action of a rifle is silly and no firearm should be silly. I am experienced with and have owned all kinds of centerfire semi-automatic rifles. If a gun can be broken this easily during reassembly after cleaning, that is design defect.
But wait! It gets worse. The switch broke a second time. It stuck in backwards travel when the bottom cross bar of the switch caught on a loaded round from the magazine. I heard it crack. Not acceptable. The piece should be made of metal or at least a high-quality composite material.
The general overuse of plastic is not something a rifleman from this country (or really any other country with a strong marksmanship tradition) is going to accept. The fit of the plastic shell is only average. The removable rubber butt plate - the only thing that holds the white plastic trigger group in place - fits inconsistently and can be installed incorrectly allowing the trigger group to come out. I did it once and have been careful not to let it happen again. The plastic trigger group works but is kind of shabby. This was not a cheap rifle at $1725.00 (Jack did not price gouge - good guy!) and at that price, there's no excuse to use so much low end plastic.
Then there's no magazine hold open. Sure, that's an FN trait, but I cannot see it's useful in modern times. Hold open so I know I'm empty.
The trigger linkage is a cheap layout of bent metal rod on plastic.
The sealed action is not practical. It is literally impossible to single load, meaning the only way to comply with a range single shot rule is to insert and remove the magazine. That's a fuss with the magazine gasket, another very questionable design feature.
I bought this rifle because of scarcity in the "big panic". I am going to keep it for now, but I have scrapped plans to buy any accessories like a sling and an ACOG.
Don't buy this rifle. If you want a nice semi automatic 5.56 mm, get something else like a good AR-15 from Rock River or other manufacturer. This is technology going in the wrong direction.
Just my opinion, but that brittle plastic switch really gets me mad.
Hi. I bought one of these from Collectors Coin just before Christmas 2012 and believe the gun is design defective. It's not a real rifle. This is my opinion and I recognize some people might like this gun, but I am dissatisfied.
I have fired a total of 120 rounds in slow aimed fire on three occasions shooting, both from a rest at a one-inch grid target and off hand at 200 yards at a bulls eye target. The gun balances well and shoulders nicely. It is accurate with 55gr Winchester white box ball ammo and prints just under two inches using the auxiliary sights from a rest using 68 grain Black Hills remanufactured. The sights were right on and required no adjustment for 200 yds. They are small but excellent aperture sights. Of course it was not as accurate as my service rifle match rifles, but it had no problem staying in the black. I shoot high power and thought the two stage trigger had a heavy pull (typical for long bull pup linkage) but broke cleanly so it had a good if heavy let off.
It's accurate, but that's not enough. Everything else is pretty much bad.
Despite its accuracy and compact format, I think it's junk. The so-called "switch" - the white brittle plastic piece that takes the ejected shell from the breech and feeds it into the forward ejection tube is unimaginably fragile. I broke mine when my hand slipped holding the spring during reinstallation. That kind of fragility is bad for any rifle, but simply unforgivable in a combat rifle. A brittle plastic piece in the action of a rifle is silly and no firearm should be silly. I am experienced with and have owned all kinds of centerfire semi-automatic rifles. If a gun can be broken this easily during reassembly after cleaning, that is design defect.
But wait! It gets worse. The switch broke a second time. It stuck in backwards travel when the bottom cross bar of the switch caught on a loaded round from the magazine. I heard it crack. Not acceptable. The piece should be made of metal or at least a high-quality composite material.
The general overuse of plastic is not something a rifleman from this country (or really any other country with a strong marksmanship tradition) is going to accept. The fit of the plastic shell is only average. The removable rubber butt plate - the only thing that holds the white plastic trigger group in place - fits inconsistently and can be installed incorrectly allowing the trigger group to come out. I did it once and have been careful not to let it happen again. The plastic trigger group works but is kind of shabby. This was not a cheap rifle at $1725.00 (Jack did not price gouge - good guy!) and at that price, there's no excuse to use so much low end plastic.
Then there's no magazine hold open. Sure, that's an FN trait, but I cannot see it's useful in modern times. Hold open so I know I'm empty.
The trigger linkage is a cheap layout of bent metal rod on plastic.
The sealed action is not practical. It is literally impossible to single load, meaning the only way to comply with a range single shot rule is to insert and remove the magazine. That's a fuss with the magazine gasket, another very questionable design feature.
I bought this rifle because of scarcity in the "big panic". I am going to keep it for now, but I have scrapped plans to buy any accessories like a sling and an ACOG.
Don't buy this rifle. If you want a nice semi automatic 5.56 mm, get something else like a good AR-15 from Rock River or other manufacturer. This is technology going in the wrong direction.
Just my opinion, but that brittle plastic switch really gets me mad.
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These guy are all up sh!t creek without a paddle
Belgium: Used by the Special Forces Group of the Belgian Armed Forces Land Component.[SUP][12][/SUP][SUP][13][/SUP]
Chile: Special forces.[SUP][14][/SUP]
Croatia: The Croatian Army tested the rifle in 2006. As of 2008[SUP][update][/SUP], the 1st Airborne Company of the Special Operations Battalion is the only army unit equipped with this weapon. According to unofficial estimates, 100 rifles have been purchased.[SUP][15][/SUP]
India: Used by the Special Protection Group.[SUP][16][/SUP]
Libya: Purchased 367 F2000 rifles along with other assorted lethal and non-lethal weapon systems from FN Herstal in 2008, and deliveries commenced in 2009.[SUP][17][/SUP] In the 2011 Libyan civil war, Libyan rebel forces captured a number of these weapons from forces loyal to the Gaddafi regime.[SUP][18][/SUP]
Nigeria: Department of State Services.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]
Pakistan: Special forces.[SUP][14][/SUP]
Peru: Special forces.[SUP][14][/SUP]
Poland: In limited use by the GROM special forces group.[SUP][19][/SUP][SUP][20][/SUP]
Saudi Arabia: The Saudi Arabian National Guard purchased 55,000 rifles in 2005.[SUP][21][/SUP][SUP][22][/SUP]
Slovenia: In June 2006, the ministry of defence of the Republic of Slovenia signed a contract with FN Herstal involving the acquisition of 6,500 F2000 rifles as the new standard service rifle for the Slovenian Army (Slovenska vojska) along with the 40 mm GL1 grenade launcher.[SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP] This is arguably the first confirmed large-scale adoption for this rifle by a European and NATO member country
Maybe they are! I will write to King Abdullah today, but don't you wonder what FN did to help the approval process along?
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Did you just recommend a Rock River AR over a battle-proven FNH product? I must not be reading that right.
Ooops. I meant an M1 Garand.
Well, I got new switches and will keep trying.
flintoid
Banned
I think your issue, targetshooter, is that you broke the white plastic shell feeder.
If it had broken during operation, your complaints would be more warranted. But you broke it ****ing around with it.
It'd be like me blaming Colt for making their lower receivers out of "****ing crappy aluminum" after smashing a AR-15 lower with a sledge hammer while trying to install roller pins. "if they had made it out of steel, it would be fine! but this AR-15 is a SILLY gun! I don't have time for SILLY GUNS."
User error, buddy. I see your point of frustration: why didn't FNH make this gun idiot proof and protect me from my own stupidity sort of thing. But what did you expect after diving into it and forcing plastic parts to bend beyond yield? If it feels like you're forcing something, you're probably doing it wrong. YMMV, and it obviously does.
I suggest sticking to the mosin nagants. You can't break those.
If it had broken during operation, your complaints would be more warranted. But you broke it ****ing around with it.
It'd be like me blaming Colt for making their lower receivers out of "****ing crappy aluminum" after smashing a AR-15 lower with a sledge hammer while trying to install roller pins. "if they had made it out of steel, it would be fine! but this AR-15 is a SILLY gun! I don't have time for SILLY GUNS."
User error, buddy. I see your point of frustration: why didn't FNH make this gun idiot proof and protect me from my own stupidity sort of thing. But what did you expect after diving into it and forcing plastic parts to bend beyond yield? If it feels like you're forcing something, you're probably doing it wrong. YMMV, and it obviously does.
I suggest sticking to the mosin nagants. You can't break those.
I look forward to the day i can drop coin on a rifle and not have to worry about eating that month
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I play the picture game also... my FS2000
Oh, she is one of the very first to hit the states before they made revisions to the trigger group.
Very nice. Don't see many of the P90-style fore ends around.
LR308_GNR
NES Member
Monolith forend... comfy as hell, wish I had bought more of them at the time. They sold the rights to Magpul and I don't think Magpul is in any rush to bring it to production.
Don't know how many units Monolith ended up producing, doubt it was very much though.
I think I'll be ditching the Eotech 553 and trying a acog 44SG-10 on her. Still have to get my Judo-chop handle installed one of these days also.
Don't know how many units Monolith ended up producing, doubt it was very much though.
I think I'll be ditching the Eotech 553 and trying a acog 44SG-10 on her. Still have to get my Judo-chop handle installed one of these days also.
Well, OK, I've calmed down now and gotten over the white plastic switch breaking (bought a few of them to keep around just in case). I like the gun now. Part of the problem seems to have been the FN-brand 10 round magazine making the cartridges stove pipe. Works perfectly with Simmonds/Universal 20rd and regular 30 rounders (pre 1994 of course), no more feed issues. It likes 69-grain BTHP's and 24.2 grains of N140 or RL15. I have the EOTech 512 on it now but have ordered a small and light Leupold FX-II 2.5 and Leupold mount. I'm going to do some load testing with 77 grain SMK's. I have had no more issues with the gun at all. Just a question of using good magazines and learning to replace the plastic thing correctly.
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