Guns for "non-gun" people

[m44]

That's got to be up there among the DUMBEST f***ING THINGS I've ever heard. You're suggesting you take a loaded firearm and kick start it??? Brilliant - I sure hope you're not TEACHING anyone that technique.



I think an M1 may be a little more appropriate than, say, a Mosin or a Garand, but I still think you’re going to run into most of the problems I listed. Tthe only exposure to the M1 Carbine that most non-gun people have is probably Band of Brothers and that famous picture of Malcolm X. You’re still dealing with an autoloader, which is subject to jams. And you’re still talking about a 60+ year old surplus rifle – how many non-gun people are going to feel comfortable with that?

And most importantly, no one has raised a convincing argument as to why you’d need a rifle (M1 Carbine or otherwise) and why a shotgun or revolver wouldn’t suffice.

They do make a lot of Modern made (commercial) M1 carbines. That way you dont need to worry about it being old surplus, I still say m1 carbine or SKS is the way to go.

 

[TonyDedo]

I love Ruger for newbies. The 10/22 is a great gun for learning, plinking, and fun. The Mark III pistol is a nice choice for the same if they want a handgun. For self defense, the SP101 in .357 mag is solidly built, with typical revolver simplicity (my choice for a first defense gun for a new shooter). All are reasonably priced.

I agree that the Ruger .22s are great first/learning guns, but as was mentioned before, there's not a lot of practical application for defense/SHTF scanarios.

 

[hminsky]

I do not think a 12 G shotgun is the right thing for someone who is inexperienced. The first shot of full power buckshot or a slug out of an 870 might dislocate the shoulder of someone who has not got experience shooting.

I have to agree that M1 Carbine is probably the best thing there is for this kind of scenario. Or else a .357 magnum lever action Marlin. Either one is low recoil, accurate to over 100 yards, easy for someone with little experience to shoot,
and simple and reliable. But the idea that you have a rifle on hand that you have not practiced with at least somewhat regularly is a very very stupid idea.

 

[ARowley]

Mossberg #1 Just In Case Cruiser Pump Shotgun 51340, 12 Gauge, 18 1/2", 3" Chmbr, Black Synthetic, Survival Kit

$325 or so

 

[Hoppy]

That's got to be up there among the DUMBEST f***ING THINGS I've ever heard. You're suggesting you take a loaded firearm and kick start it??? Brilliant - I sure hope you're not TEACHING anyone that technique.

if my ass is on the line, ya i will.

if my ass isnt on the line, i dont see what the drama is behind unjamming an SKS. it no more difficult than any other firearm. please enlighten me as to why the SKS is such a choir to unjam.

 

[Jose]

I think a lever action carbine in .357 Magnum has much to recomend it.

Pair that up with a K or L frame .357 Magnum S&W revolver, a couple of hundred rounds of 158 grain .357 Magnum hollow points and a couple of cases of 125 grain .38 Special FMJ for practice and training and you are good to go.

I'll put this combination against anything out there for SHTF defense in urban and suburban situations to 120 yards.

A scoped, bolt action hunting rifle can easily extend the sphere of influence out to 250 yards with minimal training.

 

[dwarven1]

I think a lever action carbine in .357 Magnum has much to recomend it.

Pair that up with a K or L frame .357 Magnum S&W revolver, a couple of hundred rounds of 158 grain .357 Magnum hollow points and a couple of cases of 125 grain .38 Special FMJ for practice and training and you are good to go.

Nice combination. I've been thinking on a .357 lever gun for a while now... but given the way the economy and polls are going I want my AR-15 finished FIRST.