Hardest gun you have reassmbled.

getting a keltec p32 back into the grip frame.. Still in pieces, waiting to get shipped back for keltec to do it..
Help?!? Anyone.. anyone?? anyone??
 
jamesvt said:
So whats the hardest gun you ever reassembled?
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MG42.

I could just not figure out how reassemble the barrel guide sleeve, flash hider, and booster cone back into the front of the receiver. It came apart easy enough, but getting it back together again was another matter.

I even asked an 18B (SF Weapons Sgt.) to help me with it. "I was the fastest guy to test out with this in school" he said. After about 20 minutes of fiddling with those four parts, the weapon was finally reassembled.
 
In my limited experience/collection, I'm adding a Mark III vote. As stated when both the manual and manufacturer's how-to video tell you to supply your own hammer and dowel, there's a problem.
 
I have a MKIII and it's definitely more work than all my other guns, but field stripping it to clean isn't hard at all once you learn how to do it. Have you guys that think it's a bitch removed the trigger assembly yet? I did (by accident) 2 hours before a match...not a good idea, but I did get it all back together and to my match in time :)

Another to add to the list is the Hi-Point C9. You actually need to drive a roll pin out to remove the ball that locks the slide to the frame and keep that, the spring, and the little spring cup from flying across the room. Putting it back together is even mor fun since you have to make sure the roll pin holes line up as you drop the slide back in place. Total POS of a gun.
 
Everybody complains about the Mark III, but it's no big deal if you remove that stupid mag safety. Then the whole process comes down to learning how to insert the bolt stop pin. Once you've got that figured out you are home free. It's really a matter of learning how the gun goes together. In contrast, take the Walther P22. It's obvious how it goes together, but every time you have to fight the un-captured recoil spring that wants to flop around, not line up, etc.
 
economist said:
Everybody complains about the Mark III, but it's no big deal if you remove that stupid mag safety. Then the whole process comes down to learning how to insert the bolt stop pin. Once you've got that figured out you are home free. It's really a matter of learning how the gun goes together. In contrast, take the Walther P22. It's obvious how it goes together, but every time you have to fight the un-captured recoil spring that wants to flop around, not line up, etc.
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People that really have a hard time with it should just order a "speed strip" kit from majestic arms http://www.majesticarms.com/id10.html
 
Before I discovered that YouTube had informative videos on it, my Remington Nylon 66. That thing gave me fits taking it apart AND putting it back together.
 
LoginName said:
Looks like the Ruger Mk III is the winner here (or loser).
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my conclusion is quite the opposite, people who buy MkIII are a clear bunch of whiners. May be instead of buying more guns you need to learn how to shoot and work the ones that you got. Sure, a hammer and a dowel are a bunch weird implements to just disassemble a gun, but then again I don't use a "bullet tip" to take my SKS apart. No one is going with MarkIII to war or have to dissemble it while sitting neck deep in mud.
 
Spdfreak91 said:
how about re assembling the Walther P22 , mine didn't come with that little plastic rod to re assemble , i don't know how many times i shot that spring into the air trying to hold it while i put the slide back on.I got the hang of it now though.
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I didn't think the P22 was that bad. I can imagine it being a pain in the ass without that plastic rod though.
 
I had to take off the cylinder on my Dan Wesson .44 revolver and I swear it took 4 sets of tiny hands to hold all the pieces of the trigger assembly in place to get it apart and 5 sets to get it back together.
 
Ruger mark II or III. Thank god for websites with videos, info and tricks for ruger assembly. But once you figure out how to do it, it isn't that bad.
 
Boris said:
my conclusion is quite the opposite, people who buy MkIII are a clear bunch of whiners. May be instead of buying more guns you need to learn how to shoot and work the ones that you got.
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Well I guess you're just the grand imperial wizard of the Ruger .22 pistol. [bow]
One things for sure I & severall other posters in this thread are no slouches when it comes to the hardware. Seems obvious it's not the most user friendly pistol to reassemble. Way to win friends noob dude. [thumbsup]
 
beangado said:
Ruger mark II or III. Thank god for websites with videos, info and tricks for ruger assembly. But once you figure out how to do it, it isn't that bad.
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Agreed. It definitely sucked the first few times (22/45), but it eventually became pretty easy. After spending some time doing a grip mod I'm even pretty good at a detail strip.
 
beangado said:
Ruger mark II or III. Thank god for websites with videos, info and tricks for ruger assembly. But once you figure out how to do it, it isn't that bad.
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Went thru that last night stoning a sear and hammer. Real easy to tear down but putting together was a b--ch the first 2-3 times. Now that it is fresh it isn't bad but the next time I will probably need to look at the pics again.

Dave
 
Ruger Mk III and the 10/22. MkIII I still use an old aluminum cleaning rod to punch out the pin and a mallet to take the barrel off. I took out the bolt from my 10/22 ONCE. Two hours later I still couldnt get the bolt handle to line up with the slot on the bolt.
 
saltydude said:
Well I guess you're just the grand imperial wizard of the Ruger .22 pistol. [bow]
One things for sure I & severall other posters in this thread are no slouches when it comes to the hardware. Seems obvious it's not the most user friendly pistol to reassemble. Way to win friends noob dude. [thumbsup]
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Yup, the speed strip thing was invented because it is such a PITA.
 
All you need to know to make a Mark III easy: (1) Remove mag safety (very simple and cheap - google it), (2) Make absolutely certain that the hammer is forward (pull the trigger if necessary to release it) before you start to insert the bolt stop pin.
 
I have no problem with the Ruger MK II/III. Probably because I've put some many other peoples' back together.

The worst for me was the Walther PPS when I replaced the trigger connector.
 
Boris said:
my conclusion is quite the opposite, people who buy MkIII are a clear bunch of whiners. May be instead of buying more guns you need to learn how to shoot and work the ones that you got. Sure, a hammer and a dowel are a bunch weird implements to just disassemble a gun, but then again I don't use a "bullet tip" to take my SKS apart. No one is going with MarkIII to war or have to dissemble it while sitting neck deep in mud.
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Yeah, but there's no getting around the fact that it's a dumb design for field stripping.

I've seen one that was worse... far worse. The AMT Back-Up .380 DAO I had, if you actually wanted to take it apart, you had to drive out a roll pin every time to do it. Dumbest... design, ever.

-Mike
 
I echo the sentiments on the Ruger III. I've assembled/disassembled it about 8 times (always going to the You Tube Videos and using the Rubber Mallet I purchased for the job). The last time, I still couldn't get it back together. I sent it to the factory and they sent it back to me reassembled. I'm still not ready to take it apart again.
 

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