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No restriction, but reportable by the FFL.What about multiple handgun purchases? Is there some restriction I'm not aware of? Pretty sure I can go buy ten guns all at once.
What about multiple handgun purchases? Is there some restriction I'm not aware of? Pretty sure I can go buy ten guns all at once.
You can buy them, but the FFL must file a separate form if you buy multiple pistols within five days of each other. Nominally it's intended to help track black market/straw purchases/gunrunning, etc.What about multiple handgun purchases? Is there some restriction I'm not aware of? Pretty sure I can go buy ten guns all at once.
I’m pretty sure a former member did a number of years ago. I forget their username. Ntomsw or something like that.
I don’t have all of the details but I think it was after doing a group buy for AR lowers?
@drgrant would know
I am not sure the regulations support the ATF coming down on Not Tom but as you said, who will fight it? The solution is to have an ffl run the buy or have the non ffl become an employee of a ffl. I have two employees that front end sales all the time.Yeah he got them up his ass sideways for administering group buys without an FFL. As far as the feds are concerned you cannot collect money even if you're not touching the guns. Dealers need to do this. He didn't get charged or anything but they more or less scared him out of doing it. May not be based in law but who is going to hire a lawyer to protect a skinflint GB?
This is why you never see gun GBs anymore unless the guy that set it up has a dealer administering the back end of the whole thing (taking the money, receiving the guns).
and they would know about them how? i'm not gonna tell.I wonder if any members have been visited recently because of the whole p80 BBS kit fiasco.
The have the customer lists from the P80 company.and they would know about them how? i'm not gonna tell.
ah, didn't know this.The have the customer lists from the P80 company.
If I recall, they were raided and computers seized.
There isn't one, but if you buy like 10 shithouse guns like Hi Points or other garbage like that at a time, people tell me the odds of getting a visit go up
exponentially..
If you buy a handgun every 6 days, I wonder if they can get you for "structuring".You can buy them, but the FFL must file a separate form if you buy multiple pistols within five days of each other. Nominally it's intended to help track black market/straw purchases/gunrunning, etc.
After having a few registered lowers and having a C&R Type 3 FFL, I've never gotten a call or correspondence from the ATF other than renewal papers for my C&R.Just curious if anyone had experienced this and what happened.
Good point. I had a friend that worked at a bank and she told me if anyone even hinted they were trying to subvert the $10k cash rule (Patriot Act? I don't recall), they had to do the paperwork (i.e., asking what the max was, depositing $9,999.99, etc.). Nevertheless, lots of people apparently did deposits of like $6k regularly, which was likely trying to get around the reporting requirements.If you buy a handgun every 6 days, I wonder if they can get you for "structuring".
If that was ever actually a thing they have thousands of people to chase after because I know guys that will buy a new gun every two to three weeks or whenever they get paid... lolIf you buy a handgun every 6 days, I wonder if they can get you for "structuring".
There are some videos on YouTube about people who have been visited already. When they raided p80 they seized customer information.and they would know about them how? i'm not gonna tell.
Thank goodness Hi Points aren't compliant!There isn't one, but if you buy like 10 shithouse guns like Hi Points or other garbage like that at a time, people tell me the odds of getting a visit go up
exponentially..
I see the atf at least a couple times a year. It usually goes like this
“hey jim, how are you doing?”
“Great how’s business?”
“Busy. Who are you interviewing today?”
“John Smith across the hall”
“ great guy, that makes 63?”
“60, but I have more interviews scheduled next week”
“Sounds good, we will make sure they all know how stuff works. See you soon”
...
or some variation on that.
I like the way they party.If that was ever actually a thing they have thousands of people to chase after because I know guys that will buy a new gun every two to three weeks or whenever they get paid... lol
Not unlike cops: I wonder how many ATF agents are actually really good people that like their job and are just wanting to be good and fair at it, and how many others are power-tripping douche bags?