Hk uspc range report

[Queen Bee]

Range Report: very unsatisfied .

bought a NIB HK usp compact 9 mm. brought it home, swapped out the mag release to the hk45c extended mag release , cleaned it ,

i cleaned it with the rem oil, had it nice, bring it out to the range first 50 rounds, 6-10 FTE's, not only that , i found out , the front sight is not centered and is off to the left. so i shoot the 50 rounds.. when i mean all i do mean ALL, rounds fired were off to the left. which doesn;t make sense if the front sight is off it would be shooting to the right unless the rear sight is off as well..

you can call it limp wristing if you want but i didnt have any problems with all the glocks ive fired , or the sigs, or the FHN 9. no limp wristing problems with them.

shrugs , im having a friend shoot it and see what he thinks,

im sad to say this has left a bad taste in my mouth for hk's im neutral about it atm, and debating on whether to sell it and pick up a glock 26 instead.


i am willing to give it another shot , but its tough not be disgusted in a gun that you paid a grand for in total to act up.

PS: I have shot a hk uspc before, i shot hanwei's with no problems

 

[flintoid]

well, that sucks.

 

[DrNVP]

did you lube it at all according to the manual? Rem-oil is pretty thin.

a medium weight lube like CLP will be better.

 

[Queen Bee]

hmm, alright i will head over to bass pro and see if they have it. but as of now i gave it to a friend to have a look, as he is definitely more knowledgeable than i am in this matter.

 

[Flyer007]

CLP is what I put on it when you brought it here QB. We'll see how that goes.

 

[NHKevin]

I have a USP that is excellent. Mine is a fullsize .45. Every H&K I ever shot was damn near flawless. I hope you'll consider this could be something unique - whatever problem you are having.

 

[el duderino]

Run a few hundred more rounds through it to see if that helps break it in, what did you use for ammo?

 

[Flyer007]

She put 50 of Federal 115gr FMJ's

I think it is just super tight newness.

Sights are visibly not centered though.

So will adjust them while bench resting.

 

[Gammon]

New guns, semi autos in particular, often need a break-in. All semi autos are sensitive to their ammo; a failure to eject is a symptom of ammo lacking the power to fully cycle the slide, or perhaps just a tight gun that needs a break-in.

The idea of "cleaning" a gun with Rem oil puzzles me. Oil is for lubrication, solvents are for cleaning. Rather than spend a lot of $ on expensive gun oils, I use 20wt synthetic motor oil. Just as good and a LOT cheaper.

Just to eliminate a possible problem, I would install the stock mag release. It is unlikely but possible that a different mag catch/release might position the mag higher in the frame, perhaps high enough to add friction to slow the slide down and cause the FTEs. When breaking in a new gun it is best to leave it stock until any reliabilty problems have been addressed.

Having a new gun that doesnt shoot to point of aim is disappointing, but not the end of the world. I would put several hundred rounds through the gun before I dealt with the problem, just in case the break-in changed the point of impact. A sight pusher would be ideal but a punch and hammer will suffice. Brass punches leave a little deposit on the sights, but don't harm them. Nylon tipped punches are the best as they leave no mark. With a little time and patience, you can sight your gun in. I have sighted in dozens of guns using this method.

 

[seanc]

sorry but.. This just sounds completely unacceptable to me. IMO there is no reason a brand new HK should be acting this way. If you can absolutely eliminate the shooter as the cause of the problem, I would suggest bringing it back to where ever you got it from and having them fix/ repair or replace it.

I have a uspc 9 that has been perfect. Maybe you'd like to try mine as a control and side by side compare??
pm me if you would.

 

[JimB]

New guns, semi autos in particular, often need a break-in. All semi autos are sensitive to their ammo; a failure to eject is a symptom of ammo lacking the power to fully cycle the slide, or perhaps just a tight gun that needs a break-in.

The idea of "cleaning" a gun with Rem oil puzzles me. Oil is for lubrication, solvents are for cleaning. Rather than spend a lot of $ on expensive gun oils, I use 20wt synthetic motor oil. Just as good and a LOT cheaper.

Just to eliminate a possible problem, I would install the stock mag release. It is unlikely but possible that a different mag catch/release might position the mag higher in the frame, perhaps high enough to add friction to slow the slide down and cause the FTEs. When breaking in a new gun it is best to leave it stock until any reliabilty problems have been addressed.

Having a new gun that doesnt shoot to point of aim is disappointing, but not the end of the world. I would put several hundred rounds through the gun before I dealt with the problem, just in case the break-in changed the point of impact. A sight pusher would be ideal but a punch and hammer will suffice. Brass punches leave a little deposit on the sights, but don't harm them. Nylon tipped punches are the best as they leave no mark. With a little time and patience, you can sight your gun in. I have sighted in dozens of guns using this method.

i was also puzzled with the use of rem oil as a cleaner, use hoppes, on 1911's

i use Mobil 1,,,,, i use clp in my bullseye gun. Give it a good cleaning

and try again,,,, be sure that your not pulling the shots to the left

with your trigger finger.

 

[chinalfr]

hmm, alright i will head over to bass pro and see if they have it. but as of now i gave it to a friend to have a look, as he is definitely more knowledgeable than i am in this matter.

Queenbee, give the Wally World a chance for supplies such as hoppe 9, CLP or rem oil. It's just down the street from basspro.


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[Queen Bee]

Im going to give it another chance of course, when i went to walmart in bellingham i saw alot of ammo but supplies kinda sucked in the cleaning solutions.

As for the puzzled of rem oil .
The gun is a brand new gun. Took the grease out and oiled it with the rem oil. A gun i depend on for protectection , should shoot if its dry or soaking in oil , or dirty etc . Its why i went with the hk cause it was the next competitor to a glock. Which im seriously thinking i should pick up a g26 and a g19 for the price of this gun. But im willing to give it one last try. I contacted hk, and they are ready to give me a repair authorization to send it to them, another good reason i chose hk, lifetime warranty . So feel free to meet me anytime and shoot it yourself , or buy it off me

 

[Queen Bee]

sorry but.. This just sounds completely unacceptable to me. IMO there is no reason a brand new HK should be acting this way. If you can absolutely eliminate the shooter as the cause of the problem, I would suggest bringing it back to where ever you got it from and having them fix/ repair or replace it.

I have a uspc 9 that has been perfect. Maybe you'd like to try mine as a control and side by side compare??
pm me if you would.

I agree with you completly . And ive got my phone ready to ask hk to fix it after me and flyer pump some higher 124 gr in it, if its still acting up im going to send it in, then throw it on the WTS thread, and let someone else who really Loves the gun break it in even further and i'll go to glocks.

 

[dlarge]

So you've only shot the thing once and you're a brand new shooter? IMO, you're jumping the gun on sending it back to H&K.

The slide on my SIG 226 wouldn't lock back after the last round for a full box of ammo. The guys at MFL took it down for me, didn't see anything wrong with it. We tried different mags and ammo, same deal. I took it home, cleaned it, and it has worked perfectly ever since.

Why not let someone else clean/shoot your USPC?

 

[Synyster]

Never had an issue with mine. Has a date code of KK. Shoots like a dream, almost smoother than my sig 226.

 

[Len-2A Training]

A new gun requires a good cleaning with Hoppes 9 or similar. Simply wiping off the grease and substituting oil is NOT the right way to do this.

If you have oil where it doesn't belong, this may be contributing to your problems.

With the cost/hassle of shipping a handgun, I'd opt for the dealer fixing the sights if they are off. I wouldn't ship it back to the mfr for that. Also, H&K has a well-deserved terrible reputation in customer service. They were sending me replacement sights for my USP 45c and I'm still waiting for them <NOT> . . . it's only been 12 years, but I'm sure that they will show up any day now <NOT>!

 

[SheepDog_B]

I 2nd the need for a takedown and thorough cleaning.
May also want to consider bringing the factory mag release to the range next time and swapping it out if the problem persists.

 

[M1911]

I agree with other folks here - have an experienced shooter shoot the gun before you send it back to HK.

 

[Queen Bee]

Large, we are going to shoot it wed. And had handed it off to the more experienced shooter flyer on sunday.

Lens hk is not ma compliant thus didnt get at a dealer

 

[dlarge]

Large, we are going to shoot it wed. And had handed it off to the more experienced shooter flyer on sunday.

Lens hk is not ma compliant thus didnt get at a dealer

That's good. Didn't want you to get down on your first purchase.

 

[Queen Bee]

Im not down , but more unsecure about it now, i do like the gun looks amazing, love the bobbed hammer, and the ergos on it, i wa going to light lem convert it, so it would have a trigger lbs pull like a glock but with a longer uptake for safety and being able to cotrol the hammer during reholstering was a plus

 

[Flyer007]

I've cleaned and lubed it per manual.

Have not had a chance to fire it yet, might tonight. Then a few 100 tomorrow at lead lunch.

We will update with results.

 

[M1911]

Have you returned it to stock configuration as well?

 

[Queen Bee]

Nope cause the stock one is in my range bag. On a side note:

I was thinking about the motor oil thing and it brought a funny senario to mind.

Walks into a jiffy lube*
Hi may i help you
Yes i need an oil change
But wheres your car?
No not my car..*pulls out the handgun
"hey where is everyone going?"
All i wanted was my 300 round oil change!

 

[M1911]

I recommend that you leave a gun unmodified when you first get it. Take it as is to the range and make sure it works before you start changing things. That way you know if it doesn't work that it wasn't caused by something you did.

 

[Flyer007]

Have you returned it to stock configuration as well?

Didn't have part. But not to worried about that. Number one conversion right now for USP pistols over on Hk Pro. Looks like the dimensions from pivot pin back (what holds and releases mag) are same. Only the paddle in front is bigger.

 

[Dirtypacman]

I recommend that you leave a gun unmodified when you first get it. Take it as is to the range and make sure it works before you start changing things. That way you know if it doesn't work that it wasn't caused by something you did.

+1 on this. Just a suggestion for future reference.

I had an HK USP45 - it was a great gun, ran smooth and accurate as I could be with it. Should have never gotten rid of it.
I would not think twice about getting another one, hopefully with a good thorough cleaning it will turn out to be a fine shooter.

 

[Len-2A Training]

Large, we are going to shoot it wed. And had handed it off to the more experienced shooter flyer on sunday.

Lens hk is not ma compliant thus didnt get at a dealer

Any gun shop with some smithing services can take care of the front sight for you. A lot cheaper than shipping via FedEx/UPS!!

 

[Flyer007]

Any gun shop with some smithing services can take care of the front sight for you. A lot cheaper than shipping via FedEx/UPS!!

Already centered. I think she was more thinking about the FTF/FTE stuff.

I'm confident that it will be shooting fine.