where can one buy a dummy gun?
I believe they sell them at Basspro as well. I believe I remember seeing a dummy glock over there last I went.
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where can one buy a dummy gun?
Yeah, there's no way I'd aim a real gun at a buddy (or anyone else other than a theoretical BG), no matter how many times I've ensured that it's cleared. Airsoft or a blue gun should work just as well in a training scenario.
While I haven't tried a drill like this, I have found that I'm a little slower to get to the safe & open it in the middle of the night. Slow enough that I'm starting to reconsider the wisdom of keeping it in a safe while sleeping.
For such training, I strongly suggest that you do NOT use a real firearm. Use a dummy training gun.
Indeed. Since the Mrs and I don't have any children, I wouldn't have any problem leaving a handgun on the bedside table if it wasn't for our storage laws. But the law is there and I choose not to break it.
could I keep it on my bedside table or would that be illegal?
Seriously .. people here know the MGL's about storage. If they choose to bend them then we don't need to "remind" them what the damn law is.
According to MGL Chapter 140 S131l, your gun must be locked up unless it is under your control. What constitutes being under your control is not defined in the statute, but instead has apparently been defined in case law. One of the attorneys on the board could answer that far better than I, since IANAL. If you are awake, in the same room as the gun and it is within arms reach, then I think you can argue that it is under your control. If you leave the room, then I suspect you would have a hard time arguing that it is under your control.So when I am home do I have to have my gun locked up?
When I go to bed I put it in the safe could I keep it on my bedside table or would that be illegal?
I keep mine on my hip. When I sleep it's next to the bed.
Locks have no place on home defense firearms unless you have small children.
It's just overkill and cynical on your part to think that people here don't know about the basic Massachusetts laws we were forced to memorize to be worthy to own guns.
It's cool man really
Personally, I keep my gun on me at all times, and when it's time to sleep, I attach a MA approved trigger lock, and promptly duct tape my gun to my genitals. That way I know where it is, and no one will be able to get it from me without severe resistance (tape glue attached to hair). I think this should cover me!
For those of you who lock their home defense guns in safes do you have two safes with a gun in each in case the first safe fails to open?
where can one buy a dummy gun?
I've never seen you on a firing line. Nor have you seen me on a firing line. So how am I to know what is clearly obvious to you and what is not?
abomb60, MANY of the people who read this forum have no clue what the laws are. That's why they come here. How many times have we seen people surprised to find out their "Lifetime" FID card no longer exists.
It's great that people like M1911 and others take the time to make sure newbies don't get in trouble.
Why act like such a know-it-all on other peoples affairs. It should be obvious to you that Gun laws, and especially Mass gun laws, are confusing and need to be constantly reviewed for changes that can effect you compliance with the law. Jeez!
Welcome to the forum Abomb.
Well...first, I am not so sure that everyone knows the storage laws. We get some pretty incredulous posts from time to time on things that we think "everyone" knows. It is dangerous to assume.
Second, threads like these are somewhat dicey because if someone is not in total compliance with the Massachusetts storage law, then they are in effect incriminating themselves by stating that they are not in compliance with it. It matters not, that people are using a screen identity. If there were people in law enforcement who deemed this website as a "website of interest" (the police are finally catching on to that concept, although it has taken a very long time, the younger officers tend to be computer literate and regard the computer as a tool to be used, not a tool to be feared or ignored) then they would see that people are openly stating they violate the law, and this might bring about more interest. (Please don't go on a diatribe about how the police should be busy catching "real" criminals. In their collective eyes, anyone who knowlingly (or unknowingly) breaks the law is a criminal, and it is easier to go after people like us than the neighborhood gang-banger.)
Third, 1911 is merely trying to point out that some of the incriminating statements (that's what they are) made by people on this thread are exactly that and those practices are illegal. It is a good thing for someone to point that out. He is not trying to be preachy or self-righteous, he is merely applying a little CYA to our forum.
Now this is going to ruffle some feathers, I'm sure. We all know that the law sucks and is totally unrealistic...but why advertise the fact that you may not be in compliance? The internet is forever, and everything you ever write is going to be "out there" for a long, long, time.
Since I don't answer personal questions on internet forums (I might volunteer information but that is my choice), and I regard how I store my personal defense firearm a personal question, my answer is: none of your business and leave it at that.
With respect to all,
Mark L.
I respectfully disagree Derek. Perhaps with some people with trigger locks or less accessible storage options maybe. With the quick-access safe, alarm system, layout of my house and past training and experience, I think I can get to my HD gun before the BG is at ground zero.
M1911, I'm still with you. FOOPED was noticed at the NES shoot in Mansfield to have.... how should I put this..... Somewhat RELAXED safety habits. Some of them included "sweeping" other shooters as he used his guns.
More than one person related this to me.
Sorry Fooped, nothing personal.
And for M1911, +1
Originally Posted by depicts
M1911, I'm still with you. FOOPED was noticed at the NES shoot in Mansfield to have.... how should I put this..... Somewhat RELAXED safety habits. Some of them included "sweeping" other shooters as he used his guns."
More than one person related this to me.Really? While having these "relaxed" gun handling habits is not acceptable or excusable, I pride myself on being very aware of the four rules and doing my absolute best to follow them. Interesting that NO ONE mentioned anything to me regarding this matter, which I would deem to be very serious. I have been shooting for many years and take pride and concern in my surroundings and fellow shooters. This is the first I've heard of such concerns, and while I don't take issue to being called out on a supposed safety violation, I definitely take umbrage to not having it brought to my attention directly so for one, if this was occurring I could take the immediate steps to correct it and make my fellow shooters not feel uncomfortable in any way.
Are you sure you've got the right guy? I ask this in all seriousness as I'm hyper-aware of muzzle direction and sweeping, especially with a packed range where there are even more positions where the gun is not pointed in a safe direction.
You also say "Some of them..." What else did I do?
I'm scratching my head on this one for sure. Those who shot alongside me that day I would imagine attest to my handling my firearms in a safe and responsible manner.
Moreover, not to overshadow any safety issues, but what I had posted wasn't about range ettiquette but the drill and safe storage concepts being discussed.